I continue to be confused by the statement that CPRS GUI will not run on the free version of Caché. This is clearly not the case. As the previous post indicates, the free version limits the number of concurrent processes and prevents remote Telnet access, but is otherwise not constrained. We run CPRS GUI and other broker-based applications in this environment without difficulty.
Doug Martin, MD Clinical Informatics Associates, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert DeWayne Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last value in Y from GETENV Sorry I wasn't more specific, yes VOE will run on the free version of Cache (Cacheweb), but the CPRS GUI will not function. Since the CPRS GUI is what everyone wants to test, then for all practical purposes VOE will not function correctly. The terminal capability will function and therefore the roll and scroll side will work. A great deal of the functionality that VOE incorporates, such as templates and reminders, are more GUI based so looking at the software without the GUI won't show many enhancements. We have been told that if you want to test the VOE software, Intersystems will likely produce a 5 user version that will help you see the strengths of the software. Hope this is a better explanation than before. Robert DeWayne Technical Lead VOE (VistA Office EHR) Daou Systems, Inc. P: (317) 616-4745 C:(317) 727-7477 www.daou.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Monger Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last value in Y from GETENV Unimaginable? No. A single user license is not going to get you full functionality, however I've run FOIA VistA on the free license, and VistA Office should work about the same. I didn't have much trouble, but then I didn't try to do much beyond a little development and testing. If you just want one user to get in and play around, you can probably get by with the free license. I think telnet will only work on the loopback address. I believe the main issue will be how many processes you'll be able to start. I think it's a good idea to contact the vendor. Ask them for a free license that will run it. They will probably give you one. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last value in Y from GETENV That seems unimaginable! In order to test the waters, you have to contact a vendor? I know everyone here is shooting for vendor neutrality but I would like to take a small journey down the "implementing VOE" path. Let's pretend that I have a third-world country (or a friend named Bob) that I would like to help. In the past, I could point them over to (or assist in) setting up Cache/GTM on the server and CPRS on the client. No money down and we can get our feet wet. If I can't use Cache single-user demo, is there a small workgroup edition or something simple to purchase? The reason why I say 'simple' is because I can't find a single "buy now" or "price list" at intersystems.com. I'm sure I have to call a salesman but when I visit Microsoft at http://www.microsoft.com/sql/default.mspx, the "How to Buy" link is second down on the left. At Oracle, the Store link is at the top. Did I miss something? Shouldn't it be this easy to get the technology into place? On that note, has GTM been tested with VOE? This is not an open-source vs free vs commercial argument. My point is that we should ensure that VistA is accessible to all those interested. My question is - how do I install VOE? I know VOE isn't available yet - this is in advance of the release. What can this community can do to assist in making it easily accessible? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert DeWayne Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 10:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] last value in Y from GETENV Cacheweb is a single license version of Cache, VistaOffice (VOE) will not work with this version. Robert DeWayne Technical Lead VOE (VistA Office EHR) Daou Systems, Inc. P: (317) 616-4745 C:(317) 727-7477 www.daou.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyrus Maynard Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Hardhats-members] last value in Y from GETENV I have configuration questions that will require examples from VistaOffice. Once a configuration of some flavor of Vista is OK for tinkering with, I don't linger on issues like the box aka machine aka node (in some texts). But I am a little obsessed with where the last piece of the Y string comes from after it has been set in that famous reference exercise: D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y Here is output from a new install of VistaOffice beta: EHR>D GETENV^%ZOSV W !,Y EHR^EHR^HPLAP^EHR:CACHEWEB Since I want the machine name for my laptop to remain "hplap" for other uses , This string Y should be "configured" to return: EHR^EHR^HPLAP^EHR:HPLAP and this is supposed to be done (I thought) by editing the entry in Taskman Site Parameters. Conveniently, there is only one entry in the fresh install, but it's solitary entry name name is not " EHR:CACHEWEB" and it doesnt contain "EHR:CACHEWEB" as a field entry. So where is the last piece of Y ("CACHEWEB") coming from? If I look in the code, I am *overwhelmed* with %1 defined by: %1=$ZU(86),%1=$S(%<3.1:$P(%1,"*",3),1:$P(%1,"*",2)) If I go to Taskman Site Parameters in Fileman here is what lives there. (I'll use Edit mode for Inquiring) because the verbose ?? help shows how the last piece has *nothing* to do with what is stored in this single entry for TaskSiteParam: Select OPTION: ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES INPUT TO WHAT FILE: TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS// EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ?? EHR:CACHE You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish The value for the current account is EHR:CACHEWEB Your answer should be the volume set name concatenated with ":" concatenated with the name of the CPU. The value for the current process can be found by doing GETENV^%ZOSV and checking the fourth ^-piece of Y. This allows the TaskMan site parameters to be applied extremely precisely, depending both upon which volume set and cpu which is affected. Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: `1 EHR:CACHE BOX-VOLUME PAIR: EHR:CACHE// RESERVED: LOG TASKS?: NO// DEFAULT TASK PRIORITY: 7// TASK PARTITION SIZE: 100// SUBMANAGER RETENTION TIME: 20// TASKMAN JOB LIMIT: 100// TASKMAN HANG BETWEEN NEW JOBS: 5// MODE OF TASKMAN: GENERAL PROCESSOR// VAX DSM ENVIROMENT FOR DCL: OUT OF SERVICE: NO// MIN SUBMANAGER CNT: 1// ^ Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ^ Select OPTION: Maybe I am supposed to be asking where the value for "CPU" lives which has a context called "account" by whoever wrote the ??help. The help gives a contextual citation of this same value ...where does it live? Must it be edited wherever it lives? But this is from Openvista docs: "A machine is mainly something to hook onto some VA TaskMan configuration parameters. The terms machine, CPU, box, or node are commonly used interchangeably." 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