Re: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD vs. DualCoreIntel

[Hayes Elkins]

But still not integrated memory controller (at least for the desktop and 
mobiles, not sure of the server version). Why?

From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD vs. 
DualCoreIntel
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:28:56 -0500

"Merom, Conroe and Woodcrest will deliver 5, 65 and 80 watts respectively 
for the notebook, the desktop and the server chips."

Good to hear. 5w must be the super-duper-battery-saving-slowest-mhz mode on 
a Merom based notebook. No hyperthreading either, just a dual core - fine 
by me.

I assume there are quite a few former intel employees, be they engineers or 
execs, who pushed the P4 bandwagon.


From: James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD vs. Dual 
CoreIntel
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 23:59:31 +0000

Um Hayes, they are doing that.

reference: Merom, Conroe, Woodcrest

64bit 65nm chips due in the middle of '06, 14 stage pipelines, 2-3Ghz  
clocks, 4-issue dispatch! (A64s are 3 issue, G5s are 3+branch, P4's  are 
2-issue)

Pentium M is P3 derived, and lacks the 64bitness, rather that futz  around 
giving it a 64bit overhaul, they're designing something based  on a 
similar philosophy from the ground up..

On 1 Dec 2005, at 18:50:280, Hayes Elkins wrote:

It's very clear that intel has abandoned trying to get better  
performance per mhz out of each core for both the desktop and  server - 
and instead trying to max out the supporting cast of  interconnects, 
busses, and other I/O. The new Xeon's that intel is  touting are nothing 
more than shrunken cores of the same lame ass  P4 cores from almost 2 
years ago.

What is very puzzling is that their Pentium M (a hybrid of the PIII  and 
IV) is their fastest per mhz CPU - ever. Even faster than an FX  in a few 
cases. Why they dont switch back to a shorter pipeline  design for their 
mainstream CPU's now that the fab's are available  to crank out the mhz?

The mhz race is about to come dangerously close when AMD puts out a  true 
3Ghz CPU. Which of course just OBLITERATES any intel offering.

From: CW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [H] -LO- CNet does a test workout: Dual Core AMD vs. Dual  Core 
Intel
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:43:06 -0600

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6389077-9.html?tag=btn

Interesting.  The ref would have stopped the fight in the real world.



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