Macintosh is Satan!? *Now* it all makes sense! @:)>
warpmedia wrote:
They were dolts by modern standards. Maybe you don't like the word or
the implied insult, but it's factual. This is not a discussion of
beliefs but one of belief without fact vs. skepticism due to lack of fact.
Faith is just that, either you have it or you don't. No amount of words
makes it fact. Empirical people tend to discard overreaching hopes when
the defy reality, others like to delude themselves.
It's a nice self answering argument when everything is what it is
because we as humans fail some higher beings test or defy his/her/it's
plan, not because it simply is not true. Things don't default to true
just because you believe strongly in them and can't make any argument
beyond faith that it is. Since that's where the world's religious argue
from, they will continue to draw ire from the non-religious and from
opposing religions.
Personally if religion makes you burn people at the stake, start wars,
keep people ignorant, lock your women up & abuse them etc, it's fails
the sniff test. If those are things you want to do, then at least be
honest and say your doing so because you don't want people with other
values possibly over running your part of the planet.
All of the BS is why spirituality belongs in the heart & mind, as acts
of caring not judging, and not the public forum as religion. Religion
belongs nowhere since organization by default means someone pushing an
agenda.
Now I am off to pray to my PC god and shun the satan Macintosh...
Gary VanderMolen wrote:
It's pretty easy to understand as the idea spawned from the mind of
feeble dolts over 5,000 years ago who turn to fairy tales about cloud
men rather
Respectful discussion of beliefs is one thing, but labeling your
opponents
as "dolts" is another. Ad hominems are often the last resort of those
who have run out of logical arguments.
than investigation for life's answers. "God" - the world's longest
running chain-letter troll. Should have been the first entry on
Snopes.com. I can't believe humanity still clings to such an
ass-backward ignorant view of the world.
For a century or so since Nietzsche, popular culture in the West has
operated according to an uneasy truce, in which God both is and is
not dead. We teach our children the evidence-based materialism of
science and tell them they can believe in God and a faith-based
morality in their spare time if they like.
And in some parts of the country, we celebrate Scopes as a victory
over ignorance, while still insisting that we do not also celebrate
it as a victory over religion. What these endless Scopes sequels tell
us is that somewhere many years from now we're going to hit a fork in
the road, beyond which this have-it-both-ways philosophy isn't going
to fly anymore.
Science and religion aren't opposing views, they're complimentary.
The overwhelming majority of people in this country (USA) identify
themselves with Biblical beliefs, including many scientists and other
highly educated people. If your theory were true, no one with more
than a simple high school education would believe in religion.
Gary VanderMolen
