Hello Hayes, Saturday, January 12, 2008, 2:06:48 PM, you wrote:
> Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition (SAVCE) is now Symantec Enpoint > Protection (SEP). > > It actually works as advertised, in that it takes us LESS memory > footprint in this current generation > (v11) vs the last SAVCE (v10). > > In the past, SEP's low-level filter driver causes some havoc on servers > runnining the most minute > instances of SQL (even MSDE freebie), but apparently the latest > revision (v11.0.1000) has cleaned things > up. > I havent touched the retail NAV product in close to 6 years, so I > have no real point of reference, but > it was a pile of dogshit then so I can only imagine what a bloated > monster it is today.> Date: Sat, 12 > Jan 2008 04:46:25 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [H] Free AV ?>> > Agreed, we know NAV & MacAwful suck for over 5 years> now. Let's talk to the > "other" Symantec > AV product that is most definitely> NOT norton SAV. I don't care > if you > have to get a copy by > nefarious means it's> better than any consumer level AV.> > Sure > the updates are large, welcome to 2008. They can>> be downloaded & installed > manually also so having to do liveupdate is not the> only way. At least SAV >> sticks to the core job of AV protection, without bloat> of a "security suite", > and does so > without dumbing down the interface like> many consumer AV apps have > > adopted.> > Chris Reeves wrote:> > > I don't generally give people a free if they don't> want it. > > > > > However, in regards to the theory that 'Paid is>> better then free'. I would> > counter that every time. I've absolutely> recommended Avast to numerous>> > people, including having them pay for the thing if> they feel like it. > > > > Why? There > are a lot of reasons, but the biggest> are:> > > > * I've never > seen more junky, bulky programs then> > the current versions of> > Norton & McAfee. I don't care about AVS > Bulletin> reports that show how well> >> they perform.. because they live in a kind of dream> world in which >> everyone> > is always 100% updated > and nothing wrong happens. > Updating either of those> > programs is a BITCH. > Out of the box, installing>> Norton 2008, your first> > download (as of today) is 56MB(!) For the love of> pete, this is ridiculous.>> > While people don't like to think this way, we have a> ton of people either> > still on > dialup or on life-line DSL (AT&T's 128k> plan) so a download of > that> > size means they are taking tons of time... and how>> many do it? Not as many> > as we'd like to think. Meanwhile, general updates> for > the free versions are> > smaller; hell, I can download the whole > program for> less.> > > > * Many of the > 'features' in Norton/McAfee have an> incredible propensity to> > go > wrong. You know how many times I've had to use>> NRT (Norton Removal Tool,> > available at their website) to get Norton off> because it wouldn't uninstall>> > correctly or left Winsock broken? The reason we> even had to uninstall is> > > because of things like.. password lost on parental> control > features, in one> > case a virus (which it > didn't detect) immediately> banged Norton's firewall> > so the user was > hosed. > > > > * McAfee's > annoying pop-ups. Please, if I want a> program to continuously> > > pop up and tell me shit or offer me to buy other>> programs all the time, I> > might as well be spyware infected. McAfee's> incessant offers and other BS>> > totally inert any reason to buy it.> > > > * Both programs create a significant performance> > drop that doesn't equate to> > the performance they do.> > > > Of > the paid AVs, ESET is the one that I would>> recommend most.. after> > Symantec's embarrassing heuristic issues this year> with Yahoo! Webmail and>> > Google (detecting as Feebs?) as well as their> continued bloat....> > > > Look, I have two > offices that are small offices I> see often.> > > > One is setup > with 6 computers, everyone running> > Avast and a ClarkConnect> > Firewall with AV. I've not had a single > issue there> in two years (virus> > wise).>> > > > The other went all Symantec, with a Symantec> Firewall w/AV and Small> > Business Pack > (which isn't corporate edition,> damnit, but like a 5 pack of> > > standard Norton AV) .... > > > > Guess > who I've seen at least a dozen times with> issues? Now part of it > is> > that I believe the ClarkConnect Firewall is>> infinitely better then> > Symantec's, but still, the proof for me is right> there in the pudding.>> > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> > Be a better > friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause Hotmail clearly sucks now. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
