James,
At the start, I completely agree with your suggestion. Yes a quality 400W unit would probably fill the bill. But, if you'll recall your last, I still have not done the decision on NEW video cards. Video cards, to me, for the last 5 years have been like learning a new foreign language! I have not kept current since the nVidia GeForce 4 TIxxxx days. All of my video cards are old; and some like my G200's are even older! Heck, I still have and use a Mill2 also. I do have some transitional FX5500's. So, new video will be a future task.

I have always planned my psus to be 50% larger than any analytical computation showed to be needed. I read that figure as base wattage to get the job done. Yes, this means that over the years I have probably spent more money than truly necessary. But I consider this good insurance. I have only had 3 psu failures - all Enermax 450W units.

Just now I use 510W psus. They replaced what appeared to be "bargain" Enermax 450W psus. I still have one left, but it will only get used in a dire emergency!

I only queried the PCP&C 610W choice because with promos and rebates it is ~50% off retail. Of course, I still need to find out if this offer is for a "refurbished" product. If so, I'll start the search again.
Best,
Duncan

At 16:12 11/04/2008 +0000, you wrote:
the PCP&C units are always a solid choice, personally I've used a lot
of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004&Tpk=corsair%20550vx lately without issue


Really you don't NEED anything over a good quality 400w unit,
especially if you're not loading in a big videocard,
My tri-harddisk, 4Ghz OC'd E8400 with 8GB of DDR2-800 @ 2.2v/890Mhz
and an 8800GTX draws 380w _at the wall_ when flat out, it has a 550w
corsair unit in it, with no OC and no big GPU you're looking at well
down into 400w is ample territory.

500-550w is very comfortable, the vast vast majority of machines do
NOT need >600w PSU's, that's just into the realms of lunacy and bigger- number-chasing in the vast majority of cases. (I've got an Opteron 175
box I use as a server with 2GB of ram and 10 disks in it, that draws
~200w under load, ~100w with the disks spun down and C'N'Q engaged...
makes the 565w Enermax PSU in it seem a bit... overkill)

On 4 Nov 2008, at 16:02, DHSinclair wrote:

It occurred to me this am over coffee that I might need new psu's
for the planned new systems.
Sure enough, after some quick checks in the P5Q3 UM, I do......and
it is qty=3.
OK, went to Newegg and found this appealing choice:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005

Comments?  I am still researching the "size" issue mentioned in some
comments/reviews.

Has Seasonic stopped building? Or, are they just so popular now that
they are mostly always sold out?
Was thinking of the S12-600Wht. Have yet to find one though. But
then, I do not use many different vendors. Hmm.....anyone have
quality links.....?
Best,
Duncan

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