Dear Safranim,
Thanks for all of the responses.  I am happy to share some of the comments 
from our wise colleagues.  I'm passing them on to the rabbi, and will be 
happy to assist him in classifying his collection.  I also included a 
comment about my question and my response.  Sorry for the length.  It's one 
of those questions that our newer colleagues ask, so I thought it might be 
good to share.  (Note, David B. Levy did a session at a recent conference 
on the topic, and he wrote.  Also, David Elazar wrote and gave some great 
advice as well on the Elazar system.)
Shabbat Shalom,
Susan Pankowsky
West End Synagogue Librarian
Nashville, TN

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This is a question of philosophy, standards and personnel. I vote for LC
because I believe you can hire people who understand it and if not you can
copy catalog, not everyone wants to do original cataloging. Then if you want
to go into a Union list classification isn't relevant but having a Marc
record is.
just some thoughts.
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Whether the library goes with Elazar or Weine depends to a certain extent 
on the size of the library.  A smaller library (under 5000 books) may do 
fine with Weine, but a larger library should probably use Elazar.  The main 
difference is that Elazar is more finely classified.  I have a library of 
about 10000 books and am in the process of switching from a made-up system 
to Elazar.  I chose Elazar after looking at both classification 
schemes.  It's not perfect, in fact I keep notes of what needs to be worked 
on in case anyone ever revises it, but it is much better than what we had.
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I use Wiene and find it excellent for our synagogue library.  Both Wiene 
and Elazar are meant for Jewish libraries so your rabbi would probably be 
happy using either one.  Hoped this helped.
If you want him in a Union Catalog some day, what system do the other
libraries use? If they are varied, I personally like Elazar because it breaks
the collection down nicely into logical sections of Judaic knowledge. The
organization works for me since the numbers progress from sacred texts to
secular information, most ancient to most modern.
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You could suggest he browse a few of the catalogs listed on the AQJL website
to see who has books that he has to facilitate copy cataloging. Central
Cataloging System (CCS out of Sinai Temple in Los Angeles) could also help
with records in either Elazar or Weine.
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[question]: I mean this as a totally constructive way, and I hope you see it in
that fashion.
I am wondering why you specified that the rabbi was Orthodox. Nothing
in the email necessitated the designation, and the phrase "one of our
local rabbis," would have been equally useful.
It strikes me that as Jews become increasingly under siege we must
strive for unity whenever possible.

[my response]:No worries. I designated him as Orthodox for only one reason 
- he was very interested in making sure his congregants understood where 
and why books were in designated areas (I don't remember the exact example, 
but I believe he said - why is this book on so and so's life in with a book 
on Kabbalah?). I thought that if I added that information, that it would 
help those out there with knowledge of the other classification schemes. 
Some are better for school, academic, etc. I absolutely don't believe in 
divisiveness. We only have 5 congregations, so for me, the designation also 
meant which shul it was (it's a relatively small Jewish community here!).
Clear as mud, right?
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We made our decision to use Weine a number of years ago for one synagogue
library our Jewish teacher center lib, day school lib and community
supplemental high school lib because of its compatibility with Dewey. The
general studies portion of day school lib uses Dewey. The system is very
easy to use, especially for someone with Judaic knowledge.
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Specialized Judaica classification systems include Elazar,
Weine, Leikind, Freidus, Scholem, etc. Elazar might be your best bet.
You might want to purchase my tape on this subject that was recorded at
the San Diego AJL Convention. I evaluate their strengths and weaknesses
and special characteristics in the second half of the paper that was
delivered. The first half of the tape looks at classification systems
historically from antiquity to the Renaissance but the later half of the
tape might be of interest. (from David B. Levy)
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See information below regarding the Elazar Classification System. Be
sure to read "Comments from Librarians" including those by Barbara Leff
(show your Rabbi) and the article by Bella Weinberg (it's old, but useful).
Also check out "Central Cataloging Service" and contact Lisa.

"A Classification System For Libraries of Judaica"
(3rd ed,
1997, Jason Aronson, New Jersey USA)
The authors, David and the late Daniel Elazar (Rishon LeZion and
Jerusalem) contend that there is a need for a classification system for
libraries with Judaic collections to classify and arrange these collections
according to Jewish concepts based upon Jewish thought and terminology. This
is in contrast to the familiar classification schemes like Dewey and LC
which incorporate the Bible, Judaism and Israel into the general world of
knowledge without relating them to each other in the spirit of Jewish
Tradition.
A description in detail of
"A CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM FOR LIBRARIES
OF JUDAICA"
including discussions by librarians who use Elazar is available on the 
Elazar home
page at the following URL:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/6527/class.html
Pass this message on to a friend/colleague who might be interested.
You may include this link in your website/home page.
David Elazar (MALS U of Michigan 1965)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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You may want to pass this on to him. I chose the Elazar System because it
seems to be a combination of the Dewey Decimal System and the Kabbalah.
The kids in our local school system are used to the Dewey Decimal System so
that is why I chose to use that.

also I am using MS Access to record the books in a database and put in the
number so that I can keep track of them.

Susan Pankowsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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