On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Erik Meijer wrote:

> > Has anyone implemented an HTTP client library that works with Hugs & GHC
> > on both windows and unix?
> 
> I know that Sigbjorn has a binding for the W3C libraries, but I think that only 
>works for GHC.

There is that consistent FFI problem again.  I guess we wait for Hugs to
synch w/ GHC....
 
> > I suppose, if the haskell->jni stuff is done, that would count, but I am
> > not sure of its status.
> 
> That (Lambada) is being worked on.

 From the below, it sounds like Lambada (great name!) is for Java calling
Haskell.  I want Haskell to call Java.  That is what he and I had been
talking about in the backchannel with Sigbjorn.
 
> > PS. I am really tired of using PHP for web development, and am looking for
> > some light on the horizon 
> 
> * you could use Haskell to do old-fashioned CGI scripting (probably too slow)

Too slow both because hugs startup overhead is very high and because CGI
scripting is ugly.

> * you could use HaskellScript embedded in ASP (works with IIS, I have not tried 
>ChiliSoft, which claims to have a full implementation of ASP and COM for Unix that 
>runs under Apache)

Hmm.  I was not aware of the chilisoft.  It looks interesting, but does
not run on linux and freebsd which are our primary platforms.

> * when Lambada is debugged you can use Java servlets calling Haskell (easy)
> * use Java Server Pages calling Haskell

That would be great but I am really looking to go the other way; Haskell
calling Java.
 
> * use mod-Haskell under Apache

A useful start.  But I would really like something more like
Professional Haskell Pages.  The system would execute the following page:

<html>

<! Code inside haskell tags are haskell declarations. !>
<haskell>

import module1
import module2

--a preprocessor is used to automagically import types from other systems
#import http://dtdlocation.com/dtd1.dtd -- use Malcolm Wallace stuff here
#import java java.net.HTTP -- use Lambada? 

--define some functions
fun1 x = x*x
bob = Person "bob" "27" -- Person is defined in the xmldtd above
var2 = "3"

</haskell>
<body>
This is some page content but now I want to use Haskell....
<? haskell
 --everything in these PI's is interpreted to be part of the
 --IO monad and executed at this point in the rendering of the page
 --assignment of Environment variables and cookies is hidden and automatic

 bobName <- name bob 
 putStr "in a scripting environment it would also be nice if the parser would
   1. allow line breaks in strings and 
   2. allow use of variables in strings without closing quotes and
        using ++.  That means allowing things like:
         '$(name bob) has $var2 kids'  to evaluate to
         'bob has 3 kids'
        and requiring $ not followed by a number to be escaped."
?>

An HTTP+Parser or SQL library would allow us to look up information about
bob in a database.  The actual implementation of the libary could be in
Haskell, C, Java, or whatever.  

</body>
</html>

-Alex-
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