hi david,

thank you for the pointer. i'll read the newer strategy.

cheers,

satra

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:28 PM, David Van Essen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Satra,
>
> In wb_command, we now use a different resampling strategy from the
> Caret-based deformation maps described in the URL you mentioned.
>
> See, for example,
> http://www.mail-archive.com/hcp-users%40humanconnectome.org/msg00569.html
> and related hcp-users postings.
>
> This will also be evident in the HCP pipeline scripts once these are
> released.
>
> David
>
> On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Satrajit Ghosh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> thanks matt.
>
> i just found this page:
> http://brainvis.wustl.edu/wiki/index.php//Caret:Atlases/Conte69_Atlas
>
> looks like most details i need are there. but i suspect some of the caret
> commands are now available within the workbench as well.
>
> cheers,
>
> satra
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Glasser, Matthew <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>>  164k also does not exist in FreeSurfer formats so you would have to
>> write your own conversion back.
>>
>>   From: Satrajit Ghosh <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 at 10:14 AM
>> To: Matt Glasser <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Marcus, Dan" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <
>> [email protected]>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] freesurfer directory structure for 32k average
>>
>>   thank you matt and michael,
>>
>>  the 164k surface is fine. as long as something is there that allows us
>> to register our data to the average space, at least most of my present
>> needs would be met.
>>
>>  also, as anderson noted, we all have various tools that work with the
>> freesurfer directory structures and formats. while other tools are being
>> adapted/extended to NIFTI/GIFTI/CIFTI both for data conversion and
>> visualization, it will let us continue to use our existing tools on the
>> average surface.
>>
>>  cheers,
>>
>> satra
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Glasser, Matthew <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  It’s worth noting that the 32k data is never in FreeSurfer formats,
>>> only the native mesh data is in FreeSurfer format.  Also, the FreeSurfer
>>> data does not necessarily align with any of the other data we are releasing
>>> (it is in it’s own strange 1mm volume space).  Thus, I don’t plan to
>>> provide support use of the FreeSurfer formatted data (nor will the
>>> Connectome Workbench tools which only read NIFTI/GIFTI/CIFTI) at all and
>>> don’t recommend anyone uses it.
>>>
>>>  Peace,
>>>
>>>  Matt.
>>>
>>>   From: Satrajit Ghosh <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 at 9:54 AM
>>> To: "Marcus, Dan" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] freesurfer directory structure for 32k average
>>>
>>>   thanks dan!
>>>
>>>  cheers,
>>>
>>> satra
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Marcus, Dan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Anderson, Satra,
>>>>
>>>>  We are planning to distribute the Freesurfer directories as a patch
>>>> to the current release and to include them in future releases.  I'm not
>>>> sure of the exact timeline for the patch, but I'd think sometime in the
>>>> coming weeks.
>>>>
>>>>  -Dan
>>>>
>>>>   From: "Anderson M. Winkler" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:26 AM
>>>>
>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] freesurfer directory structure for 32k average
>>>>
>>>>    Hi Michael,
>>>> I'd second Satra's request: it'd be great to have the original FS
>>>> directory structure available somewhere -- many of us have scripts that
>>>> expect that file structure, and also those same file formats that are very
>>>> easy to read. Thanks!
>>>>  All the best,
>>>> Anderson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4 September 2014 15:23, Harms, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>> If you can wait just a little bit longer, you'll be able to see all
>>>>> the exact commands when we release the pipeline scripts, and you won't 
>>>>> need
>>>>> to reverse-engineer anything.  I think that would be the most efficient 
>>>>> way
>>>>> for you to proceed.
>>>>>
>>>>>  cheers,
>>>>> -MH
>>>>>
>>>>>   --
>>>>> Michael Harms, Ph.D.
>>>>>  -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Conte Center for the Neuroscience of Mental Disorders
>>>>> Washington University School of Medicine
>>>>> Department of Psychiatry, Box 8134
>>>>> 660 South Euclid Ave. Tel: 314-747-6173
>>>>> St. Louis, MO  63110 Email: [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>   From: Satrajit Ghosh <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:15 AM
>>>>> To: "Harms, Michael" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] freesurfer directory structure for 32k
>>>>> average
>>>>>
>>>>>   hi michael,
>>>>>
>>>>>  if i understand correctly these directories contain <subjID>'s data
>>>>> in that fsaverage_LR32k space. (from here i can reverse engineer parts of
>>>>> the fsaverage_32k freesurfer directory structure, but i was specifically
>>>>> wondering if information about fsaverage_32k was available somewhere).
>>>>>
>>>>>  let's say i wanted to register my own data to that same
>>>>> fsaverage_32k space, it would be good to have the freesurfer directory
>>>>> corresponding to fsaverage_32k.
>>>>>
>>>>>  i'm assuming at some point in the HCP processing the individual
>>>>> surfaces were registered to this average space and that if done through
>>>>> freesurfer would have required a tif file containing information about the
>>>>> template and the fsaverage_32k directory or a mapping from freesurfer's
>>>>> fsaverage to fsaverage_32k.
>>>>>
>>>>>   cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> satra
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Harms, Michael <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Satra,
>>>>>> Can you be a little more specific about what you are asking for?
>>>>>> There are the <subjID>/MNINonLinear/fsaverage_LR32k and
>>>>>> <subjID>/T1w/fsaverage_LR32k directories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  cheers,
>>>>>> -MH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   --
>>>>>> Michael Harms, Ph.D.
>>>>>>  -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Conte Center for the Neuroscience of Mental Disorders
>>>>>> Washington University School of Medicine
>>>>>> Department of Psychiatry, Box 8134
>>>>>> 660 South Euclid Ave. Tel: 314-747-6173
>>>>>> St. Louis, MO  63110 Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   From: Satrajit Ghosh <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:08 AM
>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: [HCP-Users] freesurfer directory structure for 32k average
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  is there a freesurfer directory available for the 32k average
>>>>>> entity?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  i could try to create pieces of such a directory based on the cifti
>>>>>> info, but i figured this might actually exist somewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> satra
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