It's fine with me to consider "Braslav" the "standard romanization" FROM
NOW ON. My worry is about changing everything already in the database
from "Breslev" (or other forms) to "Braslav."
I won't do that in my database, because I know it would falsify a
number of cases where the vocalization "Breslev" was provided. And in
future, I expect to continue to put "Breslev" whenever that vocalization
is provided. Perhaps I should also begin putting in "T.p. (partially)
vocalized" notes if the word occurs in the 245$a, though I think it will
usually be in the 245$c (e.g., "Nahman mi-Breslev") or the 260$c
("Haside Breslev").
If there is no vocalization, it's fine with me for 246s using
romanizations other than the "standard" to be made for 245$as where we
use "Braslav."
I don't have the authority to change serial records. If one needs
changing, please write to the Policy and Standards Division, formerly
CPSO (pol...@loc.gov).
Joan
"Rachel Simon" <rsi...@princeton.edu> 3/10/2010 9:06 AM >>>
I, too, think that in Romanizing BRSLV we should follow the
vocalization of the subject heading (and if the current is
wrong—change it).
As for cases where BRSLV is vocalized, Romanization should follow that
form, but we can always add 246 when the word is in the title.
Rachel
From: owner-heb-n...@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
[mailto:owner-heb-n...@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph
Galron-Goldschlaeger
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:44 PM
To: heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: BRSLV ?????
Well, I personally would go with Braslav (I had an unvocalized serial
in hand and I could not find it because I was looking under Braslav. It
also did not have the Hebrew script title in the record (LCCN
2001-208266).
We also have the subject heading Bratslav Hasidim (sh 85016498) and
Bratslav (Ukraine) with x-ref. from Breslav (Ukraine) - [no x-ref. from
Breslev)
I don't know if in Yiddish it appears as ברעסלעב or בראסלאב or ברעסלאב
or just ברסלב
Yossi
Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschlaeger
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Joan C Biella <j...@loc.gov> wrote:
This is indeed a horrible question, because:
Our usual authoritative source for place-name romanizations,
ha-Entsiklopedyah ha-'Ivrit, gives "Bratslav," which you might think
would point to "Braslav."
But I'm pretty sure that in all the vocalized texts I've seen, and
these pretty much all come from the Haside Breslev, it's vocalized
as
"Breslev."
So if we want a standard romanization, we'd better choose "Breslev,"
or
we will inadvertently be "correcting" a lot of instances in our
databases where the actual chief-source vocalization was "Breslev."
Would everyone be satisfied with a standard romanization of
"Breslev"?
Joan
Joseph Galron-Goldschlaeger <galro...@osu.edu> 3/9/2010 1:45 PM
I know Joan will love my next question :-)
What is the correct romanization of BRSLV ברסלב
Is it Braslav
or Breslav
or Breslev
or something else
all forms found in the OCLC data-base
In LC:
Braslav - 104 times
Breslev - 190 times
Breslav - 137 times
In the Encyclopaedia Judaica (1972) there is a small town in Belarus
called Braslav (in Polish: Braslaw) - but they do not mention the
Hassidic sect - so I am not sure that this is the source.
Yossi
Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschlaeger
Head, Hebraica & Jewish Studies Library
355A Thompson Memorial Library
The Ohio State University Libraries
1858 Neil Ave. Mall
Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA
E-Mail: galro...@osu.edu or jgal...@gmail.com
Tel.: (614) 292-3362, Fax: (614)292-1918
URL: http://library.osu.edu/about/departments/jewish-studies/
Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature:
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