Hi Jasmin,

You have a choice in the situation. If you choose to code it for BIBCO you will 
have to follow the PCC Guidelines for Creating  Bibliographic Records in 
Multiple Character Sets. It appears that any update to the 2010 document has 
yet to appear so that is what PCC catalogers have to work with. In other words 
you will have to substitute "Arabic" numbers for the Hebrew letters of the date.


LC's policy is different as you point out.


RDA Hebraica Cataloging functino is presenting the options for Hebraica 
catalogers. Catalogers at LC must use Hebrew letters in the vernacular field; 
PCC catalogers have to substitute Arabic numbers; non-PCC and non-LC catalogers 
can choose to do what they want.


I know that we have discussed this issue in the past and I  honestly can't 
remember if our community was engaged by the task force working on preparing 
the next version of the above document to conform to RDA rules.


Sharon Benamou was a member of that committee. I will try and get in touch with 
her to find out the status of that group. I believe that Peter Fletcher is the 
head of that group.


I hope that this helps clarify the different options available to you.


If the issue has not been brought to the attention of the task force I will add 
it to our agenda for our June 19th meeting in Charleston.


Meanwhile your edition statement should be recorded as


Mahadurah rishonah

?????? ??????


since that is how it appears your resource (RDA 2.5.1.4).


Best, Heidi







Heidi G. Lerner

Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica

Metadata Dept.

Stanford University Libraries

Stanford, CA 94305-6004

ph: 650-725-9953

fax: 650-725-1120

e-mail: [email protected]


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Subject: [Heb-NACO] recording hebrew date in vernacular field


Hi all,



I'm trying to understand how to best parse HCM2's recommendation vis a vis the 
PCC practice for Alternative (1st) ... : 2.5.2, p. 16. "If the date of 
publication is represented only in Hebrew letters, the numbers must be rendered 
in Western-style Arabic numerals."  One example is then given for "715 [1954 or 
1955]" in both the vernacular and romanized 264 fields. (HCM2, p. 37)  Before 
that, though, the LC practice for Alternative (1st) states: ... generally 
supply non-Latin scripts for the languages/scripts ...: ...Hebrew, Yiddish, ... 
.  If following minimal level cataloguing guidelines, the records for these 
languages/scripts may be fully romanized." (HCM2, p. 36-37)



I have in front of me the following in the source:



?????? ??????, ??? ?', ???"?, 2014



We take dates following ed. statements to be pub. dates, but in this case our 
date of publication is NOT "represented only in Hebrew letters", so do we 
follow the PCC practice on 2.5.2 and render the date in Arabic numerals?  Also, 
as per the LC practice, we are to supply the non-Latin scripts. But we are 
following more than minimal level cataloguing, so should they be romanized?



My vernacular 250 is ?????? 1.; is the vernacular 264_1



??? 2., 774 = 2014

or

??? ?' ???"? = 2014



(The romanized 264_1 is Adar 2., 774 [March 2014] = 2014, with fixed fields 
DtSt=e, Date 1=2014, Date 2=03.)



Please advise.  Thanks, Jasmin



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Jasmin Shinohara

Hebraica Cataloging Librarian

University of Pennsylvania

Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center

3420 Walnut Street

Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206

T. 215-746-6397

F. 215-573-9610

[email protected]


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