Thank you, Jerry Anne, for the great explanation. Yes, it probably applies to 
the pronunciation but not to the romanization – for better and worse…

Kol tuv, Jasmin

From: Dickel, Geraldine <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 9:45 AM
To: Shinohara, Jasmin <[email protected]>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] קלוקלים

Hi Jasmin,

In biblical Hebrew grammar, the sheva under the second kof would be a vocal 
sheva.  Because a vav holem is a long vowel, the syllable kof vav holem is an 
open syllable so the second kof is the beginning of the next syllable and 
therefore the sheva is a vocal sheva.  I don’t know if this historical grammar 
applies to modern Hebrew pronunciation of the word.

best wishes,
Jerry Anne
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On Feb 7, 2022, at 11:30 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi, all,

The above is found in a couple titles by Toviyah Rubner (and is cited from him 
in the E.-Sh. entry for word). It has historically been romanized as 
ḳeloḳelim. My question is, why is the sheva under the second kof romanized as 
though it were a vocalized sheva? As a sheva merahef, wouldn’t it be ignored 
and the word romanized ḳeloḳlim?

Looking forward to your input.

Thanks, Jasmin

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