<grin>

Hey, air force or not, I'll take all the field testing I can get :-)

Just, if folks are asking, things that an AFB might be interested in  
helping out with are going on and that might help you get some  
dedicated testing resources.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1GjymP3MUc (crack Germans from a year  
or two ago.)

Sorry, I just laugh. I'm such a hippie and, like, half of my good  
hexayurt clips are folks in uniform.

C'mon Burners, where's the pix and the video footage - I know you  
took pictures of your beautiful yurts going up!

Vinay


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http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering
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On Oct 3, 2008, at 11:05 PM, LaRahna wrote:

> I need to look into that. I am near Robins Air Force Base in  
> central Georgia. Our area is heavy on engineers. I wonder if i  
> could get some action for field testing. Our intentional comunity  
> will be about 20 miles from the base and we have 30 acres waiting  
> for hexyurts!!!!!
>
> I'll do some looking into that this weekend. Thanks for the info!
>
> I am adding you to my "best friend for today" list!
> LaRahna
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Vinay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
> On the video - yeah, I just need to check with them that they're OK  
> with public upload and what the license is. Sometimes when you're  
> shooting video on a project people are casually discussing their  
> sex lives or whatever and you don't want that raw footage uploaded,  
> or they want it Creative Commons and I'd upload Public Domain by  
> default.
>
> Just, you know, always polite to check.
>
> On the military end, welllll...now, yes, there's a story there.
>
> http://star-tides.net - Hexayurts and other appropriate technology  
> stuff at the Pentagon in about 10 days. If your AFB buddies want to  
> get course credit, there are some people involved in this from  
> National Defense University who want to arrange field tests, and I  
> believe an AF group in Colorado Springs also wants to do serious  
> field tests later this year.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/tidesbart/StarTidesDemos
>
> pix here.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hexayurt+pentagon&aq=f
>
> video there.
>
> So, yeah, for some reason, the military loves Hexayurts, and if  
> you've got military folks who'd like to talk to other military  
> folks about hexayurty things there's mailing lists and so on, and  
> some upcoming events. It's all fab-and-groovy open source stuff  
> too, and very nice people.
>
> I know that might surprise some people, and at times it's surprised  
> me, but it's a very mixed bag, the DoD. I only deal with the folks  
> who're interested in putting time into this kind of relief work and  
> that's a strong filter.
>
> Vinay
>
>
> -- 
> Vinay Gupta
> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest
>
> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering
> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision
>
> Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851
> Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk  : hexayurt
> Icelandic Cell     : (+354) 869-4605
>
> "If it doesn't fit, force it."
>
> On Oct 3, 2008, at 10:55 PM, LaRahna wrote:
>
>> Awesome!!! I live in a community near an AFB and we are loaded  
>> with engineers which was what I was just discussing with an  
>> associate...To get the plans to a volunteer team of engineers and  
>> have them onsite for the build to advise and assist.Please let me  
>> know if you get clearance to put the videos out. All help will be  
>> appreciated. I live in Georgia and we don't get much snow, but the  
>> design and load considerations are still important!
>>
>> I will keep you posted on the progress. I just got email  
>> confirmation from all but one of our board members to incorporate  
>> the hexyurt into the project! Yay!
>>
>> Thanks again for your quick response and any...(pronounced ANY)  
>> info you might think helpful send it my way!
>>
>> Live life fully today!
>> LaRahna Hughes
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Vinay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi! Yes, please let me know whatever I can do to help with all of  
>> this.
>>
>> Please feel free to use the term Hexayurt to refer to hexayurts -  
>> I don't know what else you'd call them.
>>
>> On the OSB hexayurt, two things.
>>
>> 1> I've got a pile of video that Marcin's team uploaded, and as  
>> soon as I know whether it's public domain / ready for release I'll  
>> post it online, but they're off the internet for a few days so I  
>> can't ask them.
>>
>> 2> For things that might fall on people and squash them, get your  
>> own engineers or builders to really seriously think it through and  
>> make sure it's alright.
>>
>> Because a 240 lbs plywood roof with 1600 lbs of snow on it is a  
>> real hazard unless it stays up and I'm not a structural engineer.  
>> Your builders need to take responsibility for their structures  
>> because every climate is different and snow, particularly, is very  
>> very heavy.
>>
>> I'm willing to bet that when shown the design and eventually the  
>> video, a lot of people will figure out together what the  
>> structural limits of the hexayurt in plywood are, but until we've  
>> got a good consensus from builders and engineers, it's going to be  
>> a case-by-case basis for people, depending on climate and  
>> judgement and their own access to engineering expertise.
>>
>> The big issue is clearly snow. I'm fairly sure that a plywood  
>> hexayurt with good fastenings is going to be more or less  
>> invulnerable to wind excepting tornados and hurricanes, but snow  
>> is just *so* heavy when you get a big fall. As mentioned before,  
>> the pentayurt is better for snow because the roof angle will tend  
>> to make the snow fall off it more easily, but there's a whole art  
>> of making roofs work in huge snow areas - lots of different  
>> approaches, lots of regional variation.
>>
>> Now is the time for real engineering but, in the mean time, get  
>> your builders to take a look.
>>
>> Vinay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Vinay Gupta
>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest
>>
>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering
>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision
>>
>> Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851
>> Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk  : hexayurt
>> Icelandic Cell     : (+354) 869-4605
>>
>> "If it doesn't fit, force it."
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2008, at 10:16 PM, LaRahna wrote:
>>
>>> Vinya,
>>> I've been following the emails for a short while and I am very  
>>> interested in the hexayurt. I am working on 2 projects. 1 - we  
>>> have been planning to have a "tent in" to raise awareness about  
>>> our homelessness issue in my community and state. After reading  
>>> about the OSB designed hexayurt....I thought it would be an  
>>> excellent opportunity to bring together a team to "test" build an  
>>> OSB yurt in conjunction with this tent-in event.
>>>
>>> Also I am working on an off the grid sustainable community here  
>>> regionally and we are looking for phase 1 structures for the  
>>> first few months until we are able to produce our own straw for  
>>> straw bale structures...AGAIN, the OSB yurt looks like an option  
>>> that definately fits into our core values (cost-effective, low  
>>> tech, etc...)
>>>
>>> Are there any detailed plans for the OSB models? Or has anyone  
>>> done any detailed notes that we could convert to plans...(like  
>>> with measurements, and techniques used)? I read the overview page  
>>> and it didn't give definate dimensions, etc...
>>>
>>> Let me know if the informaiton exists and if we would be able to  
>>> use the "hexayurt" name (and reference your website pages) for  
>>> this upcoming event (we are shooting for November)?
>>>
>>> I can be reached of course by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone  
>>> at 678.749.2707.
>>>
>>> Live life fully today!
>>> LaRahna Hughes
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Vinay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>> wrote:
>>> The New Mandate: Tent Cities -> Hexayurt Cities
>>>
>>> The Hexayurt can be made in plywood for $132 plus paint for a  
>>> long-life, durable dwelling, or a rapid deployment unit using  
>>> folding components can be made.
>>>
>>> There is no reason that we cannot provide acceptable housing to  
>>> people unlucky enough to wind up in tent cities. These shelters  
>>> can be cheaper than tents, for a much higher quality of life.  
>>> Please pass this idea on, circulate it, spread it around, and  
>>> let's get some solutions here.
>>>
>>> Everybody deserves a place to live. Let's do the best we can.
>>>
>>> http://hexayurt.com
>>> http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=340
>>> http://files.howtolivewiki.com/folding_hexayurt/ 
>>> folding_hexayurt.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Vinay Gupta
>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest
>>>
>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering
>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision
>>>
>>> Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851
>>> Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk  : hexayurt
>>> Icelandic Cell     : (+354) 869-4605
>>>
>>> "If it doesn't fit, force it."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Live life fully today!
>>> LaRahna
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> -- 
>> Live life fully today!
>> LaRahna
>>
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> Live life fully today!
> LaRahna
>
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