Wow, that's fantastic! The folding units, particularly - Thermax HD rather than plywood for those I'd *imagine* or maybe some other panel material - ought to be very easy for zoning folks to tolerate.
"See? Folded up and gone kthxbye." And, yes yes yes on all the off-the-grid stuff. There are deep reasons for doing it that way. I've got a bunch of theory on that - actually written more for survivalists than for communards - which addresses the benefits of those kinds of systems over more conventional resource sharing systems. http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/hexayurt/survival-planning-548 May or may not be remotely relevant to your situation over there, but it's a logical extension of how things work when you have solar etc. and with all this Hexayurt City talk, the social models are going to come into play eventually! Vinay -- Vinay Gupta Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851 Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk : hexayurt Icelandic Cell : (+354) 869-4605 "If it doesn't fit, force it." On Oct 3, 2008, at 11:27 PM, LaRahna wrote: > I am going to incorporate the hexayurt into our november event > write-up and i'll make sure to forward it to you. if there are any > hexayurt fans nearby (or who want to visit for the event), i'ld > love to give them an opportunity! Also the phase 1 of our > intentional community will be almost like a park with pads (similar > to tent platforms) but because we want to make thezoning people > happy ( :) ) we are calling it park and park pads (not campground > and tent sites) and it would work so well with the hexayurt > construction. Over the past few weeks since finding your sites..I > was particularly interested in teh units being used in 3rd world > countries what can incorporate simple water/power sources. Our site > will be using composting toilets as a standard...and a simple water/ > wastewater and solar hookup.......tadah!...So if there are > enthusiasts...looking for test sites.....heck we got 30 acres...hex > away! > > :) > > have a great weekend and live life fully today! > LaRahna > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Vinay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > <grin> > > Hey, air force or not, I'll take all the field testing I can get :-) > > Just, if folks are asking, things that an AFB might be interested > in helping out with are going on and that might help you get some > dedicated testing resources. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1GjymP3MUc (crack Germans from a > year or two ago.) > > Sorry, I just laugh. I'm such a hippie and, like, half of my good > hexayurt clips are folks in uniform. > > C'mon Burners, where's the pix and the video footage - I know you > took pictures of your beautiful yurts going up! > > Vinay > > > -- > Vinay Gupta > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > > http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering > http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision > > Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851 > Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk : hexayurt > Icelandic Cell : (+354) 869-4605 > > "If it doesn't fit, force it." > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 11:05 PM, LaRahna wrote: > >> I need to look into that. I am near Robins Air Force Base in >> central Georgia. Our area is heavy on engineers. I wonder if i >> could get some action for field testing. Our intentional comunity >> will be about 20 miles from the base and we have 30 acres waiting >> for hexyurts!!!!! >> >> I'll do some looking into that this weekend. Thanks for the info! >> >> I am adding you to my "best friend for today" list! >> LaRahna >> >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Vinay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> On the video - yeah, I just need to check with them that they're >> OK with public upload and what the license is. Sometimes when >> you're shooting video on a project people are casually discussing >> their sex lives or whatever and you don't want that raw footage >> uploaded, or they want it Creative Commons and I'd upload Public >> Domain by default. >> >> Just, you know, always polite to check. >> >> On the military end, welllll...now, yes, there's a story there. >> >> http://star-tides.net - Hexayurts and other appropriate technology >> stuff at the Pentagon in about 10 days. If your AFB buddies want >> to get course credit, there are some people involved in this from >> National Defense University who want to arrange field tests, and I >> believe an AF group in Colorado Springs also wants to do serious >> field tests later this year. >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/tidesbart/StarTidesDemos >> >> pix here. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hexayurt+pentagon&aq=f >> >> video there. >> >> So, yeah, for some reason, the military loves Hexayurts, and if >> you've got military folks who'd like to talk to other military >> folks about hexayurty things there's mailing lists and so on, and >> some upcoming events. It's all fab-and-groovy open source stuff >> too, and very nice people. >> >> I know that might surprise some people, and at times it's >> surprised me, but it's a very mixed bag, the DoD. I only deal with >> the folks who're interested in putting time into this kind of >> relief work and that's a strong filter. >> >> Vinay >> >> >> -- >> Vinay Gupta >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >> >> Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851 >> Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk : hexayurt >> Icelandic Cell : (+354) 869-4605 >> >> "If it doesn't fit, force it." >> >> On Oct 3, 2008, at 10:55 PM, LaRahna wrote: >> >>> Awesome!!! I live in a community near an AFB and we are loaded >>> with engineers which was what I was just discussing with an >>> associate...To get the plans to a volunteer team of engineers and >>> have them onsite for the build to advise and assist.Please let me >>> know if you get clearance to put the videos out. All help will be >>> appreciated. I live in Georgia and we don't get much snow, but >>> the design and load considerations are still important! >>> >>> I will keep you posted on the progress. I just got email >>> confirmation from all but one of our board members to incorporate >>> the hexyurt into the project! Yay! >>> >>> Thanks again for your quick response and any...(pronounced ANY) >>> info you might think helpful send it my way! >>> >>> Live life fully today! >>> LaRahna Hughes >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Vinay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! Yes, please let me know whatever I can do to help with all of >>> this. >>> >>> Please feel free to use the term Hexayurt to refer to hexayurts - >>> I don't know what else you'd call them. >>> >>> On the OSB hexayurt, two things. >>> >>> 1> I've got a pile of video that Marcin's team uploaded, and as >>> soon as I know whether it's public domain / ready for release >>> I'll post it online, but they're off the internet for a few days >>> so I can't ask them. >>> >>> 2> For things that might fall on people and squash them, get your >>> own engineers or builders to really seriously think it through >>> and make sure it's alright. >>> >>> Because a 240 lbs plywood roof with 1600 lbs of snow on it is a >>> real hazard unless it stays up and I'm not a structural engineer. >>> Your builders need to take responsibility for their structures >>> because every climate is different and snow, particularly, is >>> very very heavy. >>> >>> I'm willing to bet that when shown the design and eventually the >>> video, a lot of people will figure out together what the >>> structural limits of the hexayurt in plywood are, but until we've >>> got a good consensus from builders and engineers, it's going to >>> be a case-by-case basis for people, depending on climate and >>> judgement and their own access to engineering expertise. >>> >>> The big issue is clearly snow. I'm fairly sure that a plywood >>> hexayurt with good fastenings is going to be more or less >>> invulnerable to wind excepting tornados and hurricanes, but snow >>> is just *so* heavy when you get a big fall. As mentioned before, >>> the pentayurt is better for snow because the roof angle will tend >>> to make the snow fall off it more easily, but there's a whole art >>> of making roofs work in huge snow areas - lots of different >>> approaches, lots of regional variation. >>> >>> Now is the time for real engineering but, in the mean time, get >>> your builders to take a look. >>> >>> Vinay >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Vinay Gupta >>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>> >>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >>> >>> Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851 >>> Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk : hexayurt >>> Icelandic Cell : (+354) 869-4605 >>> >>> "If it doesn't fit, force it." >>> >>> On Oct 3, 2008, at 10:16 PM, LaRahna wrote: >>> >>>> Vinya, >>>> I've been following the emails for a short while and I am very >>>> interested in the hexayurt. I am working on 2 projects. 1 - we >>>> have been planning to have a "tent in" to raise awareness about >>>> our homelessness issue in my community and state. After reading >>>> about the OSB designed hexayurt....I thought it would be an >>>> excellent opportunity to bring together a team to "test" build >>>> an OSB yurt in conjunction with this tent-in event. >>>> >>>> Also I am working on an off the grid sustainable community here >>>> regionally and we are looking for phase 1 structures for the >>>> first few months until we are able to produce our own straw for >>>> straw bale structures...AGAIN, the OSB yurt looks like an option >>>> that definately fits into our core values (cost-effective, low >>>> tech, etc...) >>>> >>>> Are there any detailed plans for the OSB models? Or has anyone >>>> done any detailed notes that we could convert to plans...(like >>>> with measurements, and techniques used)? I read the overview >>>> page and it didn't give definate dimensions, etc... >>>> >>>> Let me know if the informaiton exists and if we would be able to >>>> use the "hexayurt" name (and reference your website pages) for >>>> this upcoming event (we are shooting for November)? >>>> >>>> I can be reached of course by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or >>>> phone at 678.749.2707. >>>> >>>> Live life fully today! >>>> LaRahna Hughes >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Vinay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> The New Mandate: Tent Cities -> Hexayurt Cities >>>> >>>> The Hexayurt can be made in plywood for $132 plus paint for a >>>> long-life, durable dwelling, or a rapid deployment unit using >>>> folding components can be made. >>>> >>>> There is no reason that we cannot provide acceptable housing to >>>> people unlucky enough to wind up in tent cities. These shelters >>>> can be cheaper than tents, for a much higher quality of life. >>>> Please pass this idea on, circulate it, spread it around, and >>>> let's get some solutions here. >>>> >>>> Everybody deserves a place to live. Let's do the best we can. >>>> >>>> http://hexayurt.com >>>> http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=340 >>>> http://files.howtolivewiki.com/folding_hexayurt/ >>>> folding_hexayurt.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Vinay Gupta >>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>>> >>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >>>> >>>> Gizmo Project VOIP : (USA) 775-743-1851 >>>> Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk : hexayurt >>>> Icelandic Cell : (+354) 869-4605 >>>> >>>> "If it doesn't fit, force it." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Live life fully today! >>>> LaRahna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Live life fully today! >>> LaRahna >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Live life fully today! >> LaRahna >> >> >> > > > > > > > -- > Live life fully today! > LaRahna > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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