I built my hexayurt for a week in the desert(Burning Man).
It worked great and I put it together poorly  I did it mostly by
myself and I didn't cut one straight edge.  I also didn't tie it down
completely and my ropes got loosened.  It still didn't blow away it
just did an odd breathing thing when it was windy.  When I did tie it
down it was rock solid.  Oh and I did not use all of the anchors cuz I
lost something like tent pegs or something.  That was more than a day
ago so it has left my brain.

The main issue I had was the break down.  With all the metal tape and
the bifilament tape I cut myself up a bit.  Should have worn gloves.
Also the break down made it difficult to reuse.
I am looking at using some type of wrap(think bungy meets sports tape)
instead of bifilament tape for the ring.
I am also exploring velcro and legos as wall connector options.  I
might also try to do what my training matts do which is jigsaw
together.  That is more difficult and cuts down on overall size so I
am avoiding it right now.

I want to re-use my Hexayurt on all my travels.  Using non reusable
things like Bifilament tape makes that difficult.  Also I am trying to
keep the building blocks around 48" X 48" as they are easier to
transport.

I will let you know as things go along how they are going.

Rich Shumaker

On May 11, 5:31 pm, lance95 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks to all who have responded.
>
> Obviously, if one has sufficient resources, one can simply buy a fully
> equipped retreat that is complete with provisions.
>
> But I’m choosing to focus upon an average, North American citizen who
> may have to abandon his or her home in the middle of the night--
> possibly with children and pets.  In gentle climates, one needs little
> more than a tarp and a wool blanket for protection against the
> elements.
>
> But when the temperatures drop and the snow begins to fly, a good warm
> shelter is of paramount importance. This is especially true for the
> very young and old, along with those who are either sick or injured.
> The northern latitudes can be very cruel in the winter.
>
> The hexayurt has a lot going for it, but the basic units  have to be
> heated in the winter. And at this juncture, I’m not sure how to do
> that.
>
> That causes me to, once again, look at yurts/ gers. I’m speaking of
> the convention kinds. Some nice ones can be bought from a number of
> sources. And they are both beautiful and functional—often complete
> with electricity, plumbing and woodstove.
>
> But those kinds of yurts probably aren’t going to be an option for the
> person who must evacuate in the middle of the night. So I’m looking
> for something that can be built with easily obtainable materials—such
> as odds and ends from local hardware stores, or salvaged from
> demolished buildings. One key part you need when building a yurt is a
> good “roof ring.”
>
> One of the major challenges is designing a “roof ring” that can easily
> be made from common materials. At one time, I had a decent home
> workshop that featured a good table-saw, circular saw, router and
> drill press. With those tools, I was able to do some pretty fancy
> work. Certainly, building a good, “roof ring” would have been a simple
> job.
>
> Now I have nothing but a couple of hand saws, a small saber saw and a
> portable drill. Most of the roof rings I have seen can’t be created as
> quickly and as easily as I would like. Yes……………personally, I could
> build one even with my paltry selection of tools, but I have the
> advantage of a lot of experience.
>
> A good friend of mine is endeavoring to design a new sort of “roof
> ring”, we shall see what he comes up with.
>
> Many of the experienced yurt people I have talked to concede that
> there’s a problem; unfortunately, they are vague about possible
> solutions.
>
> Please don’t misunderstand, I’m not looking for a personal solution. I
> have the time and resources to either buy or rent what I need to build
> a roof ring. Hell………….I can afford to buy a complete kit. That’s not
> the issue. What I want to do is to come up with solutions for others.
>
> As a final note, keep in mind that those who don’t own property might
> have to move their yurt/ger frequently.
>
> Anyway, there are a lot of issues to confront.
>
> Sincerely,
> Royce
>
> On May 11, 4:30 pm, "The Distinguished ..." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
>
> > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 11:24 -0700, lance95 wrote:
> > > This is my first day on this discussion board. And I want to thank
> > > everyone for the work that they have done. I am impressed.
>
> > It is quite impressive.
>
> > >  I’m very interested in empowering myself and others to survive in a
> > > battered economy. I have, for the last couple of years, studied a wide
> > > range of options for those with only minimal resources.
>
> > And, if you read some of the essays our Fearless Leader has put out,
> > there is lots of information on how to transport and build
> > minimal-resource infrastructure, starting with a shipping container full
> > of supplies, and ending with housing and a field-hospital.
>
> > > I am very involved with alternative medical treatments, especially
> > > those associated with Qi Gong.  I believe medical issues to be very
> > > important area since our quality of life depends largely on the state
> > > of our health.
>
> > You might want to talk to Dr. Evan Hughes about such things, he has
> > several good talks about such balances.
>
> > > My research suggests to me that one might be well advised to remember
> > > that threats to one’s plans to survive a calamity can arise from many
> > > sources, which include the federal, state and local governments.
>
> > Indeed, although most of the focus here has been on disaster recovery,
> > theoretically with the support of the Federal, State and Local
> > governments, rather than in opposition to them.  Most of the work, here
> > has been on temporary structures, rather than permanent ones, with the
> > exception of the co-op farm (search the archives for more information)
>
> > > Consider the harassment that can come for simple vagrancy.
>
> > Vagrancy is a whole other topic, that I'm not sure this is the correct
> > forum to focus on such within.  Safer to talk engineering, rather than
> > causes.  We all want these, for our various reasons, and when they
> > effect the design (as my reasons did) it makes sense, but ... if it is
> > outside the design reasons ... we should leave that to the business of
> > the private individual.
>
> > > In regard to semi permanent shelters, I’m greatly interested in both
> > > the traditional yurt designs and the hexayurt. Has anyone extensively
> > > tested the hexayurt in cold climates where there is the possibility of
> > > heavy snowfalls?
>
> > I have experience with both ger (yurt means village and ger means house)
> > and hexayurt designs.  Last fall, I was experimenting with the Hexayurt
> > design, for winter storage (due to a sudden lack of my standard 12'
> > diameter, 5' high ger, because one of my friends needed to live in it
> > for the winter, his contractors royally screwed the building of his
> > house, and his "newly poured" foundation was crumbling within weeks of
> > it being poured) and found that the simulated snow-weight on the roof,
> > with the extra weight of the building materials (orient-strand board,
> > ledger-board, and flashing, basically) wasn't going to hold up to a New
> > England winter.  So I erected a Pentayurt (well ... at the moment, just
> > the roof, up on cinder blocks, then it started snowing, the rest will be
> > going up as soon as I have time in the next several weeks) and the
> > pentayurt roof, with 2-foot cinder-block walls worked just fine,
> > structurally.  In terms of living in it?  I'd want to do a lot more to
> > it, to keep it warm, and habitable.  It also survived winds that the
> > Thermax design might not have survived.  A ger is also well-suited to
> > wind-swept snowy areas, the more the wind, the more the convection
> > pushes the yurt closer to the ground, as opposed to taking off with it,
> > like a circus tent.  Ask some Pennsic Hurricane veterans about what
> > structures were standing and what structures were just gone.
>
> > > And what about heating the hexayurt? Wood gasification stoves—forced
> > > air stoves—are fine for cooking out in the open, but the don’t meet
> > > the needs of someone cooking in a hexayurt that lacks some kind of a
> > > chimney.
>
> > For my ger, that was lived in, up in northern Maine, there is the
> > outer-layer (canvas), a vapor barrier layer (tyvek attached to felt),
> > the khana, and then the inner wall layer (duralon (I believe that's the
> > name of it)).  About 2 feet away from one of the walls was a pipe-hole,
> > surrounded by cement-board/insulating foam sandwich inset in the rafters
> > (and had things attached to it, to make an appropriate vapor barrier as
> > well) that the pellet-fed wood/cook stove was vented.  We didn't really
> > have to worry about a snow-load, although the plug for the standard
> > ring-hole was a bit of a problem (not as tight a water-seal as he would
> > have liked, even though he insisted on being able to open it, all winter
> > long, because he liked the sky and the airflow through his house) but he
> > lived comfortably in it for the whole winter.
>
> > I would _not_ have been comfortable putting the stove in either a wood
> > or an insulation-board Pentayurt.  Too much structural dependency on the
> > setup, and not enough space to be able to safely separate the heat from
> > the stove, from the construction materials.  Also, it might burn up too
> > much oxygen, and not leave enough for the residents.
>
> > > I realize that there are archives. And I will try to access them.
> > > Possibly concerns such as mine have already been fully addressed.
>
> > Much more is in the archives, it's well worth the look.
>
> > > Thanks again.
>
> > > Royce
>
> > Percival
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