You can do the accordion technique without the bevels, but boy-howdy is it purdy and Damn Strong with them.
Vinay On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Elliot <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess this is just me, but I wasn't planning on beveling any of my edges. > Admittedly I wont get a super tight fitting joint, but I'm not really > worried about that. > > It seems to me that I can get all the functionality of folding without > actually needing to do the beveling. > > On 3 August 2010 13:59, Zippy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Steve, that sounds right. You point out the key issue: all exterior >> lines should remain untouched, full length of the original board >> (short side 4'; long side 8'; diagonal 8.944'). All bevels are cut on >> the interior sides of the panels. >> >> You're right, you could cut the bevels the way you suggest, saving one >> cut per roof section. You are a braver man than me. >> >> Regarding cutting bevels: >> >> In case anyone is debating whether they want to do this, I was glad I >> did it. It takes quite some time, but it was worth it in the end. Nice >> tight fit on every joint. >> >> Method: >> >> I laid my panels, exterior side down, on top of a sheet of plywood >> that aligned exactly with the panel edge to be bevelled. I eyeball >> estimated the top cutaway measurement of the bevel (i.e. held my blade >> at what I eyeballed to be 15 degrees, and too much is better than not >> enough) then just ran the blade along the plywood edge. This worked >> well. >> >> As an important suggestion to others wanting to cut bevels, use a high >> quality box cutter blade, and keep them sharp. There is an excellent >> heavy duty knife made by Stanley® with the long snap away blades (I >> got mine at Home Creepo). The knife is big (about 10 inch, silver) >> and cost about 20 bucks, but as I was doing the work, I was thanking >> my lucky stars I wasn't trying to do it with a standard blade, or one >> of those cheap dollar store snap away blades. >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> - - - - ------Zippy---------> >> >> On Aug 3, 10:09 am, Steve Upstill <[email protected]> wrote: >> > That certainly clarifies things. Just to be certain I understand: >> > >> > * You do NOT bevel the original outside edge of the sheet-the longer >> > ones. Those will join into the vertical joint that forms a single roof >> > triangle. >> > >> > * The shorter outside edges of the original sheets will be bevelled to >> > join with the walls. Different issue. >> > >> > * The diagonal on each original sheet gets bevelled. In all cases, the >> > OUTSIDE line (from the perspective of the finished yurt) is the original, >> > corner-to-corner diagonal line. The bevel is cut "in" from there. >> > >> > As a matter of interest, it seems to me that you can bevel when cutting >> > the original sheet. Then, bevel that in the opposite direction--from the >> > same side-- on the "larger" sheet. Instead of one straight cut and two >> > bevel >> > cuts, you have two bevel cuts. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Steve >> > >> > On Aug 3, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Zippy wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Steve Upstill <[email protected]> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > >>> I was thinking of just offsetting the line a bit to make them >> > >>> identical. Or am I being too anal? How worried should I be about that? >> > >> > > On Aug 3, 8:29 am, "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> If you're cutting angles, you want to be anal about everything, >> > >> > > I agree. I was very anal about things being neat and perfect and >> > > things worked very nicely. Steve, there is no issue, the line doesn't >> > > need to be offset. If I understand you correctly, I think the >> > > confusion might come from you thinking that you are going to cut the >> > > bevels in one shot when you cut the 4x8 sheet on the diagonal. I >> > > wouldn't recommend that. The geometry doesn't work that way. >> > >> > > Cut your 4x8 sheet on the diagonal exactly down the middle, with no >> > > bevel (90 degrees from the plane surface). You now have two identical >> > > triangles. Flip one over and lay the two pieces on the ground with >> > > the angled sides that you want to join together adjacent to one >> > > another, with the underside of the roof facing up. Identical 15 >> > > degree bevels should be cut on these joining sides, being careful not >> > > to shave any material off the plane surface underneath (because this >> > > plane surface will be your roof top). >> > >> > > Once the bevels are cut, flip the ensemble over, and tape them >> > > together at the beveled seam. Your bevels will be invisible from this >> > > vantage point as they will be underneath. >> > >> > > Hopefully that makes sense? >> > >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > > Groups "hexayurt" group. >> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > [email protected]. >> > > For more options, visit this group >> > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > It is not that wars are always wrong. 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