As for a 12V drill, I would try it, esp. if I had a ratchet or box wrench
handy to overcome static friction in the event. If it doesn't work, it's
not like you won't have neighbors on-Playa.


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:30 PM Steve Upstill <upst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep, plain ole Home Depot 18V Ryobi rechargeable drill. We used something
> like 1/4" or 3/8" zinc lag screws
> <https://www.fastenersuperstore.com/products/lag-screws-steel-zinc?pid=5987>,
> 12" long. They were so goddamn firm in the ground that I concluded 10"
> would work fine.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:31 PM Paul Crowley <p...@ciphergoth.org> wrote:
>
>> Steve - just a rechargeable drill? Not an impact driver? Wondering
>> whether my 12V drill would do it - or maybe a combination of that and a
>> ratchet.
>>
>> On 14 July 2017 at 12:08, Steve Upstill <upst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Last year I drove and removed 50+ lag
>>> bolts with my 18V rechargeable drill, along with many other demands on the
>>> drill, without even going to my spare battery.
>>>
>>> Cost: about $1.20 each, plus about $.15 for chain. Effort/annoyance
>>> saved: priceless. Every person who has seen lag bolts being
>>> installed/removed, if they've ever touched rebar, has had an enlightenment
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> I'm never going back to rebar.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:38 AM Oz <ozpo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just use 2  5 foot lengths of gas pipe with coupling fittings
>>>> threaded to the ends to minimize damage to the pipe. The first bend starts
>>>> with the pipes flush, then I move them about an inch apart to complete the
>>>> nearly perfect U bend. When the rebar is driven, the two legs give you
>>>> immediate stability, the legs spread for more gripping power, and the rebar
>>>> is flush to the playa for no tripping/ripping damage to altered hippies. A
>>>> little digging with a claw hammer and a few lateral pounds and the rebar
>>>> comes right up.
>>>>
>>>> I've been using this system for 15+ burns with no issues. Some years
>>>> you do have to move the loose playa out of the way to get to the hard pack.
>>>> I know this isn't as sexy as lag bolts, but it's cheap and has no power
>>>> requirements.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:09 AM, ken winston caine <
>>>> ken.winston.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Was really impressed with this suggestion back in 2010. Commented as
>>>>> much then, so I must have understood what KrazyKorny meant. But today I am
>>>>> staring at a bunch of 2' long pieces of 3/8" rebar wondering how I am 
>>>>> going
>>>>> to use a bumper jack to bend them to form hooks on one end?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone explain?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or is there an even better way to make the bends?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 31, 2010 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-6, KrazyKyngeKorny wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two lengths of pipe will facilitate bending the bar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A bumper jack will make it easy to pull the "U"s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KrazyKorny (Krazy, not stupid)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:06 PM, ken winston caine <
>>>>>> k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Two things:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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