Hi all

I feel the need to defend the onboard ( or any other type) electronic tuner.

Its main function of course is to give a visual confirmation that your open string is in tune -very useful anytime but particularly in a session.

Having this indication at the flick of a switch is far more convenient than fumbling around with hand held units or having to repeatedly attach the clip on type.

The onboard tuner will usually take its signal direct from a transducer in the instrument so it gets a much purer signal.

Getting both chanterelles in perfect unison is also more simple done visually , particularly if there are other drone instruments tuning up at the time.

The other point is that many accompanying instruments - all the fretted instruments, keyboards and melodeons for instance - are normally tuned in equal temperament and if you routinely play with these instruments, your carefully set up intonation is just a bit out.

I suppose it all comes down to what you want to play on the hurdy-gurdy. General playing for fun with other musicians would seem to suit equal temperament and the purists have every right to embrace any tuning standard that they choose.

IMHO, life's too short to agonise over the finer points of Kirnberger II and Valotti ( no offence Simon ). It takes immense skill to give every note exactly the same pressure and unless this is achieved, the notes are always going to vary in pitch by a tiny amount each time they are played.

The Wittman tuner I use to build in has indicators for sharp and flat of equal temperament, these flash at an increasing rate as the pitch differs from equal. The rate of flashing is an indicator of the degree of shift. Four flashes per second, for instance indicates a ten cent deviation so it's not hard to work out where you need to be.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that if the tangents are set to play in D, surely larger errors will be apparent when you change to playing in G, Am etc.

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year

Neil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Wascher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [HG] Building Questions: onboard tuners


Hello,

Am 05.12.2007 um 23:18 schrieb John Tappan:
Three, a number of instruments are being built with onboard electronic tuners. It works nicely on my guitar, I’d think that with some 46 or so tangents, it could be a big help in getting set up.

there are two purposes for the onboard tuner. First is to find and control the pich of the open string, really helpful. Second is to tune the tangents. To tune the the tangent pitches well you will need a tuner that is capable of at least one or the other non equally tempered scales, like Kirnberger II, Valotti, ... or one that allows to reprogram its scale to the needed.

Most small tuners that you might find nice to build in support modern standard equal temperament pitches only. If you find a small reprogamable one, please let me know...

Simon


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