Hi all, and happy gregorian new year 2008 to y'all, bon ano novo to luso-galicians...

Just to clarify/add to the confusion, since the original question asked about the Galicia of Poland/Ukraine: yes, there is a Galicia in Eastern Poland/Western Ukraine. Yes, too, to Galicia being the NW- most region of Spain. (For those needing a "celtic" fix, the Celtiberian tribes were those that roamed throughout Hispania; the Scythians were Ukraine/Russia/Moldavia's local Celt colour.)

since terms do get confusing, and since HG is played in both Galicias, here are some points that might help along the way:

Galicia=either NW Spain or S Poland/W Ukraine
Galizia=Poland/Ukraine
Galiza=NW Spain
Galego=from NW SPain
Galizianer=from Poland /Ukraine, usually as said in Yiddish
Halych, Halychyna=Ukrainian usually
Zanfona, zanfoña, zamfoña, cinfonia and any corruption that looks like this=HG in NW Spain at least, lots of other areas in Spain Lira, Lyra, Relia, kolesnaya lira, kolyesnaya lira, relira, or any of these kind of variants=HG in Poland/Ukraine (as well as Russia and more)

blind HG player guilds= Spain and Ukraine. A really neat point, one that I hope to explore in future research.

Wolodymyr Smishkewych Rey = Spain and Ukraine :^) I have the dubious honour of being 100% Galician, despite being half-n-half Ukrainian and Spanish, plus a smattering of Polish and who-knows-what else.

best of everything to everyone in the new year,
Vlad






Wolodymyr Smishkewych
wolodymyrsmishkewych.com
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On Jan 01 2008, at 18:07, Augusto de Ornellas Abreu wrote:

(please forgive me - I will answer in a language that is not English, but I will just explain what I did on this same thread, just so Ivan understand what we are talking here)

Olá Ivan,

Escreverei-te em português porque meu galego não é muito bom. Creio que não haverá problemas de entendimento, já que o galego e o português são línguas irmãs.

O colega perguntou sobre a Galícia, se nos referíamos à tua Galiza ou à Galicia que fica na Polônia. Expliquei-lhe sobre a Galiza, sobre a tradição da zanfona, e sobre o organistrum do Portico da Gloria na Catedral de Santiago de Compostela, como forma de demonstrar quão antiga é essa tradição em vosso país.

Apenas isso, colega.

Espero que entenda bem o meu português - estarei na Galiza em julho de 2008 e espero aprender um pouco de galego, que penso ser uma lingua muito bela.

Apertas brasileiras dende Xerusalén,

Augusto Ornellas

On Jan 2, 2008 12:51 AM, ivan ad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,

i'm from Galicia, in Spain,

i don't understand english very well, this is why i

don't read all the messages...

Did it have any messages about the organistrum or what about...?


thanks



----- Mensaje original ----
De: Gabriel Orgrease <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: martes, 1 de enero, 2008 21:22:54
Asunto: Re: [HG] Galicia


Augusto,

Thank you so very much.

Best,
Gabriel



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