Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one?The only positive comments that I 
have seen regarding hg kits have come from a person who's picture of him 
holding his kit built hg appears in the musicmaker catalog, or did. Hmmmm.
Barry
www.blackboardcreations.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: colin 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one?


  That's more than I know regarding kits. I am a recent player and have very 
little knowledge of any instrument (built or kit) other than my own BUT I bow 
to the experience of those on the list who DO know what they are talking about 
and, as has been said, this subject is often the first question asked by a new 
list member.
  There are many makers on the list and they know a lot about HGs although 
often the news is not what we want to hear.
  I was just answering from replies I have read (and heeded) in the past.
  Another post from me tells you about my HG but there are other "budget" ones 
available from good makers - not as cheap as a kit but probably better to start 
with but it depends where you live. Overseas postage and packing can be 
daunting in some parts of the world and that can make a difference.
  I suppose you have checked Olympic musical instruments?
  The Chinook is around $1800 US (if that's where you are) and the makers run 
this list :).
  Better to save a little longer than try to get something for less - you will 
know the difference.
  If you tell us where you are (which country), I'm sure you will get a good 
recommendation BUT a decent HG costs. It's not possible to get "cheap" and 
"playable" into the same phrase.
  Colin Hill
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Douwe Boschma 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:21 PM
    Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one?


    Hi Colin,

    I understood that indeed about the Kit from www.musikit.com, but does that 
apply to all kits? Do you know about a builder that does builds proper budget 
ones?

    I am really pleased with all the replies by the way. I just won't react to 
all of them but I appreciate ever one.

    Douwe


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    From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Reply-To: <[email protected]>
    Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:19:57 -0000
    To: <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one?

    Whilst awaiting the comments from those who really know, everything I have 
read says NO KIT unless you really want the experience of building one for fun. 
Everybody seems to say that you will spend at least as much again to get it 
playable so it's no cheaper than buying a "proper" one direct from a maker.
    There are good budget ones available or start saving for one.
    You get what you pay for with a HG.
    Personally I have no respect for EMS either because my dulcimer was badly 
built (I bought the "ready made" kit assembled by them) and the bits didn't fit 
properly and two of the frets are not set correctly (at an angle).
    I could have done better myself (indeed, I had done with a few bits of 
plywood and a bit of 2"x1" pine at night school).
    Colin Hill


      ----- Original Message ----- 
       
      From:  Seth <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
       
      ,

      To: [email protected] 
       
      Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:42  PM
       
      Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if  so which one?
       

       
      Kit or no Kit???   NO KIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
       
       
       
      I have never heard anything good about the kit you link too..  If I  were 
going to buy a kit I would probably go with EMS because they seem  to carry 
quality stuff..  I think its a diatonic instrument.. Anyone  have experience 
with the EMS kits or EMS Symphony's... Cheers, Seth
       
       
       
       
       
      From the EMS website...
       
         
       NEW - EMS Symphony in kit form     
       - 4 string symphony kit      
       £ 276.38  
       
        
       
       
       
       
       
      Douwe Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
       

        Hello  everybody,

        I am new on the list as well and I have a newbie question  that I am 
unable
        to find an answer about.

        But lets start properly  with a small introduction. I am Douwe, a 38 yo 
male
        living in the  Norwegian moutains on a small farm with my wife and two 
girls
        (0 and 6).  Originally I am Dutch and I work (amongst some of other 
trades)
        as a  graphic designer.

        Since my youth I have had a medieval gen buzzing in  my system. It 
expresses
        itself in many ways but it especially starts to  resonate franticly if 
I hear
        the sound of the hurdygurdy. I get a lyrical  feeling that I don't have 
with
        any other instrument even though I play  some different instruments.

        Because of this lingering love I have  been thinking for years about 
buying a
        hurdygurdy, but as with a lot of  people my income goes straight into 
the
        household so I am on budget too  low to afford one that would be to my 
taste.
        Because of this I decided to  build one. I already have a plan for a
        hungarian HG from the music museum  in Stockholm ;-) I love the 
"no-frills"
        form, it is a large one (and I am  a very tall guy) and I expect a warm 
and
        rich sound, lest the right kind  of tone wood will be used. But before I
        start with that undertaking I  want to get a good feel for the 
instrument (on
        the inside and outside) so  I considered buying a kit to get me going.

        Now I found two kits on  internet.

        The musikit.com one is well advertised but also one that  I'm sure I 
don't
        want because of it would need a lot of work to get a  reasonable sound 
and
        versatility out of it.

        I am talking about  this  one:

        
http://www.musikit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=hurd
        y

        And  I have found an other one that I can't find any additional  
information
        about and that is this  one:

        http://www.masterkit.com/rwc/products/hurdy.htm

        I seems  to have all the specs I am looking for except from a lacking 
key as
        I  understood about this 18th century french model. But does anyone  
have
        experience with this HG-kit, or has anyone heard about it? Can I  
expect it
        to be good enough for a starter? Or is it a toy to hang on the  wall? 
;-).

        It is a budget thing really, as I can't spend more what  that one would 
cost
        me. It is even above my budget. In usd bout 1000. In  euros about 740.

        So that is the only option I found out about that  might be a valid 
one, but
        it is something that I wish to validate with  knowledgeable people! 
Maybe
        there are other options too that I don't know  about! I'm all eyes and 
ears.

        Sorry for this very long mail, but I  though that it would be right to 
show a
        bit about myself trough in it as  I am new here. Any next on will be 
more to
        the point.

        With best  regards,

        Douwe








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