Thanks Melissa, I did it at as fast as my fingers could carry me to the url you sent! The most likely place for Hungarian HG¹s would be Hungaria of course, and because of that tried to find a builder in Hungary before, but well the Hungarian character stew (I did not get further then ³Szerényi Béla²) ate me alive so I left that quest for what it was!
Thanks again! I hope he replies soon, Douwe From: Melissa Kacalanos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:23:33 -0800 (PST) To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one? = now! NO KIT! I haven't even read all these emails about kits, so forgive me if I'm repeating what's already been said. But I think that, if your goal is to get a playable instrument (rather than learn how to make hgs, which is a much larger project than merely learning how to play them) you're best off just buying one. Making one would take so much time, you'd be better off getting another job to make the money needed to buy a good instrument. Douwe, you mentioned that you might like a large Hungarian hg. Well, Balazs Nagy made my large Hungarian hg, and I'm very happy with its powerful, deep sound and no-frills appearance. Ask him what he's charging these days: http://www.musicart.hu/balazs/index_en.htm Melissa www.melissatheloud.com Douwe Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one? = now! NO KIT! Thanks Neil > and others, > > All of you have been a very valuable help and you probably saved me some hard > earned cash. The kit-idea sounds now like very expensive KIT-litter to me. ;-) > > I¹ll orientate on a chromatic+all step-in-model for a nice price now. I would > feel much more comfortable with a properly built HG but the prices scare me > even though I find it reasonable and sometimes even cheap considering the work > and craftsmanship that has been put into it. I also thought of trying to find > a builder or seller that wants to exchange a proper instrument or give me a > substantial discount in return for a professionally designed website and/or > company style and brochures or anything else in my league. ;) > > I have some things to (re)consider. > > I also like to note btw that I it makes me very happy that my question on the > HG list gave me lots more answers then I have found over countless the hours > of browsing the net in search for info. > > Douwe > > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:10:57 -0500 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one? > > The musikit looks a lot like the EMS kit which they no longer do. There are > some serious design issues with it. The worst is that the front axle bearing > is housed in a bronze bush embedded in the bar under the chanterelle bridge. > This pretty much guarantees a poor tone. I have re-built 2 of these to have a > front bearing under the keybox end as it should be and the tone improves > immensely. The other design problems can be lived with but still make for a > fairly unsatisfactory instrument imho. > > Neil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Douwe Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:21 > Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one? > > > Hi Colin, > > I understood that indeed about the Kit from www.musikit.com > <http://www.musikit.com/> , but does that apply to all kits? Do you know about > a builder that does builds proper budget ones? > > I am really pleased with all the replies by the way. I just won¹t react to > all of them but I appreciate ever one. > > Douwe > > > > From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:19:57 -0000 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one? > > Whilst awaiting the comments from those who really know, everything I have > read says NO KIT unless you really want the experience of building one for > fun. Everybody seems to say that you will spend at least as much again to get > it playable so it's no cheaper than buying a "proper" one direct from a maker. > There are good budget ones available or start saving for one. > You get what you pay for with a HG. > Personally I have no respect for EMS either because my dulcimer was badly > built (I bought the "ready made" kit assembled by them) and t he bits didn't > fit properly and two of the frets are not set correctly (at an angle). > I could have done better myself (indeed, I had done with a few bits of > plywood and a bit of 2"x1" pine at night school). > Colin Hill > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Seth <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> , >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:42 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one? >> >> >> >> Kit or no K it??? NO KIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> I have never heard anything good about the kit you link too.. If I were >> going to buy a kit I would probably go with EMS because they seem to carry >> quality stuff.. I think its a diatonic instrument.. Anyone have experience >> with the EMS kits or EMS Symphony's... Cheers, Seth >> >> >> >> >> >> From the EMS website... >> >> >> NEW - EMS Symphony in kit form >> - 4 string symphony kit >> £ 276.38 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Douwe Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:d [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> >>> Hello everybody, >>> >>> I am new on the list as well and I have a newbie question that I am unable >>> to find an answer about. >>> >>> But lets start properly with a small introduction. I am Douwe, a 38 yo >>> male >>> living in the Norwegian moutains on a small farm with my wife and two >>> girls >>> (0 and 6). Originally I am Dutch and I work (amongst some of other trades) >>> as a graphic designer. >>> >>> Since my youth I have had a medieval gen buzzing in my system. It >>> expresses >>> itself in many ways but it especially starts to resonate franticly if I >>> hear >>> the sound of the hurdygurdy. I get a lyrical feeling that I don't have >>> with >>> any other instrument even though I play some different instruments. >>> >>> Because of this lingering love I have been thinking for years about buying >>> a >>> hurdygurdy, but as with a lot of people my income goes straight into the >>> household so I am on budget too low to afford one that would be to my >>> taste. >>> Because of this I decided to build one. I already have a plan for a >>> hungarian HG from the music museum in Stockholm ;-) I love the "no-frills" >>> form, it is a large one (and I am a very tall guy) and I expect a warm and >>> rich sound, lest the r ight kind of tone wood will be used. But before I >>> start with that undertaking I want to get a good feel for the instrument >>> (on >>> the inside and outside) so I considered buying a kit to get me going. >>> >>> Now I found two kits on internet. >>> >>> The musikit.com one is well advertised but also one that I'm sure I don't >>> want because of it would need a lot of work to get a reasonable sound and >>> versatility out of it. >>> >>> I am talking about this one: >>> >>> >>> http://www.musikit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=hurd >>> <http://www.musikit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code >>> =hurd> >>> <http://www.musikit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code >>> =hurd> >>> y >>> >>> And I have found an other one=2 0that I can't find any additional >>> information >>> about and that is this one: >>> >>> http://www.masterkit.com/rwc/products/hurdy.htm >>> >>> I seems to have all the specs I am looking for except from a lacking key >>> as >>> I understood about this 18th century french model. But does anyone have >>> experience with this HG-kit, or has anyone heard about it? Can I expect it >>> to be good enough for a starter? Or is it a toy to hang on the wall? ;-). >>> >>> It is a budget thing really, as I can't spend more what that one would >>> cost >>> me. It is even above my budget. In usd bout 1000. In euros about 740. >>> >>> So that 20is the only option I found out about that might be a valid one, >>> but >>> it is something that I wish to validate with knowledgeable people! Maybe >>> there are other options too that I don't know about! I'm all eyes and >>> ears. >>> >>> Sorry for this very long mail, but I though that it would be right to show >>> a >>> bit about myself trough in it as I am new here. Any next on will be more >>> to >>> the point. >>> >>> With best regards, >>> >>> Douwe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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