Thanks Neil and others,

All of you have been a very valuable help and you probably saved me some
hard earned cash. The kit-idea sounds now like very expensive KIT-litter to
me. ;-)

I¹ll orientate on a chromatic+all step-in-model for a nice price now. I
would feel much more comfortable with a properly built HG but the prices
scare me even though I find it reasonable and sometimes even cheap
considering the work and craftsmanship that has been put into it. I also
thought of trying to find a builder or seller that wants to exchange a
proper instrument or give me a substantial discount in return for a
professionally designed website and/or company style and brochures or
anything else in my league. ;)

I have some things to (re)consider.

I also like to note btw that I it makes me very happy that my question on
the HG list gave me lots more answers then I have found over countless the
hours of browsing the net in search for info.

Douwe


From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:10:57 -0500
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one?

The musikit looks a lot like the EMS kit which they no longer do. There are
some serious design issues with it. The worst is that the front axle bearing
is housed in a bronze bush embedded in the bar under the chanterelle bridge.
This pretty much guarantees a poor tone. I have re-built 2 of these to have
a front bearing under the keybox end as it should be and the tone improves
immensely. The other design problems  can be lived with but still make for a
fairly unsatisfactory instrument imho.

Neil


-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:21
Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one?

 
Hi Colin,

I understood that indeed about the Kit from www.musikit.com
<http://www.musikit.com/> , but does that apply to all kits? Do you know
about a builder that does builds proper budget ones?

I am really pleased with all the replies by the way. I just won¹t react to
all of them but I appreciate ever one.

Douwe


From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:19:57 -0000
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if so which one?

Whilst awaiting the comments from those who really know, everything I have
read says NO KIT unless you really want the experience of building one for
fun. Everybody seems to say that you will spend at least as much again to
get it playable so it's no cheaper than buying a "proper" one direct from a
maker.
There are good budget ones available or start saving for one.
You get what you pay for with a HG.
Personally I have no respect for EMS either because my dulcimer was badly
built (I bought the "ready made" kit assembled by them) and t he bits didn't
fit properly and two of the frets are not set correctly (at an angle).
I could have done better myself (indeed, I had done with a few bits of
plywood and a bit of 2"x1" pine at night school).
Colin Hill
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>  
> From:  Seth <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  
> ,
> 
> To: [email protected]
>  
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:42  PM
>  
> Subject: Re: [HG] Kit or no kit? And if  so which one?
>  
> 
>  
> Kit or no K it???   NO KIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>  
>  
>  
> I have never heard anything good about the kit you link too..  If I  were
> going to buy a kit I would probably go with EMS because they seem  to carry
> quality stuff..  I think its a diatonic instrument.. Anyone  have experience
> with the EMS kits or EMS Symphony's... Cheers, Seth
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From the EMS website...
>  
>    
>  NEW - EMS Symphony in kit form
>  - 4 string symphony kit
>  £ 276.38  
>  
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Douwe Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:d [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> wrote:
>  
>> Hello  everybody,
>> 
>> I am new on the list as well and I have a newbie question  that I am unable
>> to find an answer about.
>> 
>> But lets start properly  with a small introduction. I am Douwe, a 38 yo male
>> living in the  Norwegian moutains on a small farm with my wife and two girls
>> (0 and 6).  Originally I am Dutch and I work (amongst some of other trades)
>> as a  graphic designer.
>> 
>> Since my youth I have had a medieval gen buzzing in  my system. It expresses
>> itself in many ways but it especially starts to   resonate franticly if I
>> hear
>> the sound of the hurdygurdy. I get a lyrical  feeling that I don't have with
>> any other instrument even though I play  some different instruments.
>> 
>> Because of this lingering love I have  been thinking for years about buying a
>> hurdygurdy, but as with a lot of  people my income goes straight into the
>> household so I am on budget too  low to afford one that would be to my taste.
>> Because of this I decided to  build one. I already have a plan for a
>> hungarian HG from the music museum  in Stockholm ;-) I love the "no-frills"
>> form, it is a large one (and I am  a very tall guy) and I expect a warm and
>> rich sound, lest the r ight kind  of tone wood will be used. But before I
>> start with that undertaking I  want to get a good feel for the instrument (on
>> the inside and outside) so  I considered buying a kit to get me going.
>> 
>> Now I found two kits on  internet.
>> 
>> The musikit.com one is well advertised but also one that  I'm sure I don't
>> want because of it would need a lot of work to get a  reasonable sound and
>> versatility out of it.
>> 
>> I am talking about  this  one:
>> 
>> http://www.musikit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=hurd
>> <http://www.musikit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&amp;Category_Code=
>> hurd> 
>> y
>> 
>> And  I have found an other one=2 0that I can't find any additional
>> information
>> about and that is this  one:
>> 
>> http://www.masterkit.com/rwc/products/hurdy.htm
>> 
>> I seems  to have all the specs I am looking for except from a lacking key as
>> I  understood about this 18th century french model. But does anyone  have
>> experience with this HG-kit, or has anyone heard about it? Can I  expect it
>> to be good enough for a starter? Or is it a toy to hang on the  wall? ;-).
>> 
>> It is a budget thing really, as I can't spend more what  that one would cost
>> me. It is even above my budget. In usd bout 1000. In  euros about 740.
>> 
>> So that 20is the only option I found out about that  might be a valid one,
>> but
>> it is something that I wish to validate with  knowledgeable people! Maybe
>> there are other options too that I don't know  about! I'm all eyes and ears.
>> 
>> Sorry for this very long mail, but I  though that it would be right to show a
>> bit about myself trough in it as  I am new here. Any next on will be more to
>> the point.
>> 
>> With best  regards,
>> 
>> Douwe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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