I also vote with Chris, Melissa and Simon: I prefer one list as I also enjoy
the discussions on how to built a hg and all problems related to it, because
it makes me understanding the instrument much better.

Christa

2008/9/29 Chris Nogy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Really, in looking back at the contents of this list from the time I
> joined, I can say that this is definitely NOT a players list.  There are
> very few discussions of techniques, of arrangement methods, of playing
> techniques.  There is a lot of discussion of events, of bands, of music to
> listen to.  There are a few requests for tunes.  There are a LOT of requests
> for information about how to get started, but very little about intermediate
> or advanced playing.  Most of the information I see that is more than just
> topical has to do with the instrument itself - setting up, information about
> strings and tensions and adjustments.  I find this information is
> particualarly part of 'builders' discussions.
>
> It seems like most of the replies and responses we see on the list are of a
> technical (instrument) nature rather than a technical (playing) nature.
>
> And it seems every once in a while someone approaches the topic of
> 'technical' discussion as if they were mistreated by someone on the list -
> there are numerous apologies for posting building / adjusting / modifying
> information, as if people get yelled at for bringing that discussion to this
> list.  I haven't been a member for more than a couple fo years, but I have
> bnever seen the reason to be apologetic for posting technical 'builder'
> questions or comments - nobody ever yelled at me for doing it, and a lot of
> people respond to the threads.
>
> I think that much of the lack of advanced discussion on the list is because
> of the nature of the beast - the Hurdy-Gurdy is a limited-interest
> insturment, and nobody, either player or builder, wants to simply 'throw'
> their specialty knowledge out for general consumption.
>
> I guess that I feel that a seperate builders list would turn into an
> amateur hobby builders list right off the bat and stay that way.  I know
> that it would be fun to discuss the trials and tribulations, and what does
> and doesn't work for us, but I fear we would not end up with a significant
> presence of master builders on the list, and it would become more just a
> 'social gathering spot' than a real resource for building (at least I don't
> think it would be a better resource than this list).
>
> Besides, as Melissa said, people on this list actually enjoy these
> discussions as well - And with the shape the world economy is in, I have a
> feeling a lot more people are going to be trying their hands at building a
> lot more of their own stuff (instruments and everything else) so keeping the
> largest community possible as diverse and useful as possible might not be
> the worst thing we can do.
>
> That being said, i would actually participate in a hobby-builders hang-out
> group, but I think I would still expect my best information to come from
> this list.
>
> Chris
>
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 9/29/2008 at 10:20 AM Melissa Kacalanos wrote:
>
> >While I'm not a builder myself and have no plans to be
> >one, I still find builders' discussions interesting,
> >and enjoy reading them on this list. They help me
> >better appreciate all the work that went into my hg.
> >I'd vote for leaving these discussions here, since
> >then I wouldn't have to check a separate group for
> >them.
> >
> >Are there builders who are uninterested in this list's
> >discussions of tunes and bands and such? In that case,
> >I guess I could see why they'd want their own private
> >space free from all that, so I can't force them to
> >have their discussions here where I can conveniently
> >eavesdrop on them.
> >
> >Melissa
> >
> >
> >--- Arle Lommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Would it make sense to set up a Google or Yahoo
> >> Group just for makers
> >> and those interested in building hurdy-gurdies?
> >> While I don't want to
> >> fracture the group on this list, I wonder if a
> >> dedicaed group might
> >> not attract those who don't want to participate on a
> >> general HG list.
> >> It would also allow those with an interest in
> >> detailed building
> >> questions to discuss as much as they want without
> >> overwhelming those
> >> who have an interest in playing only. My other
> >> thought is that often
> >> enough I've seen people say that they'd take such a
> >> discussion off
> >> list (like Marc proposes here), in which case the
> >> result of that
> >> discussion is lost to anyone else who might be
> >> interested, while a
> >> Google group would allow that to be recorded.
> >>
> >> If there is enough interest in a builders' group,
> >> I'd be willing to
> >> set it up.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Arle
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 29, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Reymen Marc wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello jim,
> >> > I hear you have the same interests as I have.
> >> > I'm a hg builder and i asked questions like yours
> >> to on the site but
> >> > I discouverd to that the inerest for these items
> >> is minimal on this
> >> > site.
> >> > I'dd like to discuss these and others items like
> >> these but i think
> >> > we can better do this not on  the site...
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > marc
>
>
>
>


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