-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what was the point of this little rant of yours? everything you mention is also possible on the PC... the PC manufacturers simply don't force you to use it.
besides, any idiot with a stopwatch can see that a lower-end PC runs faster than a brand new high-end mac, sure maybe their processers can do a lot of gigaflops but they sure don't use them wisely. -av Aaron Kalin wrote: >Cocoa and Darwin... OSX is a great OS and I would love to see a PC port as >it is UNIX based, the Window system is a openGL rendering, not a GDI >rendering (direct draw) which puts less strain on the processor for desktop >rendering and allows for some sleeker graphics. Windows XP tried to do this >but didd'nt quite make it. > >Yes you CAN do things on a Mac that are normally done on a PC, the meulators >for windows work fine, I have been able to run HL and other games on it just >fine along with my other essential software. No, Apple doesnt price gouge, >actually the higher prices comes from their choice of product, they went >higher end with this such as firewire which was invented before USB however >the expense of it quickly made USB catch in the PC world, yet it never was >anywhere close to the speed of firewire and is still today the method of >choice for all DV editors today. Don't forget they went straight into SCSI >instead of the cheaper PC EIDE drives. Also the mac's g4 processor runs ont >he new RISC archetecture which no Intel or AMD has been able to match (yet, >look @ the clawhammer) The dual G4 pumps out a whopping 16 gigaFLOPS >(Floating Point Operations Per Second) versus the dual AMD or Intel's 6 or >7. Coupled with the better flat panel monitor technology and better sense >on the higher end of the industry Apple suprisngly made the best choice for >OSX, as the Server OS is quite powerful and is able to run any UNIX >installed software I choose so running and maintaining the server is a >breeze, I would love to see a Windows server try to outrun it. > >One other thing, this was a HLCoders list, not a mac and PC pissing contest, >get back to HL kthx =p > >-iggy > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Foss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:29 AM >Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Mac VS PC > > > > >>bah, I have nothing better to do. >> >>Macs are good at what they do: drool proof systems, graphics design, and >>matching the curtains. >> >>PCs are true general purpose machines. anything you can do with a mac you >>can do with a PC, the inverse is not true. >> >>on Ooperating systems: >>Linux does what it does well (server, file recovery, being 1337, being >>stable.) >> >>Windows is good with games, but is rather buggy for a 100%, mission >>critical, 'net connected server. >> >>Mac OS is good at looking pretty, and with BSD, you can actualy do stuff. >> >>An apple salesperson showed off a dual g4 box with osX (before it came out >>to the masses). I was like: yeah, but does it have a command line. he >> >> >popped > > >>open a term, and said: it has all of the basic *nix commands, but they're >> >> >in > > >>slightly diferent locations. >> >>macOS is promising, let's put it that way. (there have been successes in >>making an Xfree compatibility layer with osX, meaning X programs can run >> >> >on > > >>aqua or cocoa or whatever it's called.) >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Daniel Koppes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:58 AM >>Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Mac VS PC >> >> >> >> >>>I'll stick with PC + Windows 2000... its pretty much 100% stable.... >>>*hides from the Linux fanboys* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>For sure, lol. >>>> >>>>I love Mac design !!! >>>>I dream of a mix-computer mac hardware + x86 software >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 10 Oct 2002 at 23:46, Daniel Koppes wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Um. Please tell me you're kidding. Please.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Ok....so it's a fruit ^^ >>>>>> >>>>>>I often eat apple-pies, can I eat PC-pies too ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On 10 Oct 2002 at 22:31, Philip (Fiber) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Uh oh. See www.apple.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_________________________ >>>>>>>Why do ducks have webbed feet? To stamp out fires. Why do >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>elephants >> >> >>>>have >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>flat feet? To stamp out burning ducks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlcoders- >>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bob le Pointu >>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:10 PM >>>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Mac VS PC >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What is a mac ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>(;>) >>>>>>>>On 10 Oct 2002 at 19:29, Philip (Fiber) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Some love them and some hate them. I personally have never >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>seen a >> >> >>>>>>>>>program crash on a mac, but everybody has seen different >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>things so >> >> >>>>>>>you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>live with what you want and be happy with it and I'll do the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>same. >> >> >>>>>>>>>_________________________ >>>>>>>>>Why do ducks have webbed feet? To stamp out fires. Why do >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>elephants >> >> >>>>>>>have >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>flat feet? To stamp out burning ducks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>[mailto:hlcoders- >> >> >>>>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Avatar-X >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:51 PM >>>>>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Mac VS PC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>>>>>>>>Yes, it's available on mac, but it really really sucks on >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>the >> >> >>>>mac. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>it's >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>slow, it's buggy, it crashes a lot >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>oh, wait, every piece of software on the mac does that :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-av >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Philip (Fiber) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>IE on mac is so horrible... i suggest you get Omniweb, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>www.omnigroup.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>its buggy and doesnt work very well but at least it >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >works > > >>>>better >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>than >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>IE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>on mac. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>[Phil] IE is horrible on the PC as well, so I use Mozilla >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>which >> >> >>>>>>>is >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>best on PC and Mac (it is available on Mac right?). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>list >> >> >>>>>>>>>archives, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>please visit: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-- 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