The main problem with Fileplanet is that its trying more and more to
shift people off the free downloads onto these premium servers which you
pay for. Fair enough you say, well it is.. until the free servers
decline both in number and quality. Fileplanet are also favourites for
developers like VALVe to give their patches to first, you find that when
a HLupdate is released, very few other sites have it, Fileplanet are
trying to monopolise this. Another thing is the GameSpy ID, basically a
way to tag and track what users download, as Fileplanet is linked with
Gamespy, all their hosted sites are forced to use it as the storage for
user downloadable files, which just helps it keep ahead of other game
downloads sites.

regards,

Rob Harwood.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of botman
Sent: 29 December 2002 20:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Our MOD's are for sale !!

> I was quite annoyed when they were suddenly hosting the beta of our
> Eradicators mod the day after we released it. I never asked them to
host
> is, nor gave them permission to. I wanted to keep it hosted on our own
> site so that I could track the number and location of downloads.

Did you try contacting fileplanet.com to have them remove your file?

Here's the legal agreement from the file submission page...

Terms of Service for File Submission Page


By submitting your file to FilePlanet, you agree to the terms listed
below.

1. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY

By submitting this file to us, you acknowledge that you either know that
the
file has been made freely distributable by its owner, or that you are
the
owner of the file's intellectual property and that you are hereby
granting
us permission to distribute it.

2. DISTRIBUTION

You grant FilePlanet the right to freely distribute it, without
restriction,
electronically or on CD-ROM/DVD, to our users. This includes those users
who
are subscribed to our premium download service.

3. POSTING AT FILEPLANET'S DISCRESSION

FilePlanet makes no garuntees that the file will be accepted for posting
on
our site, or that it will remain on the site for any period of time. We
reserve the right to reject or remove files at our own discression.


...notice the part that says "you acknowledge that you either know that
the
file has been made freely distributable by its owner, or that you are
the
owner of the file's intellectual property and that you are hereby
granting
us permission to distribute it." (also notice that they can't spell
"guarantee").  :)

If you didn't make the file freely distributable (whatever that means)
or
you are the intellectual property holder and you don't give them
permission,
they would have to remove the file (based on their own terms of service
agreement).

If you didn't bother to contact them, then they had no way of knowing
that
you didn't want them to host the file.  Most people have the other
problem,
they have a file that they want fileplanet.com to host so they won't
have to
pay for the download bandwidth charges when 100,000 people download the
file
from their personal web site.

On another note (not directed at the original author or anyone in
particular), everyone complains about how much fileplanet.com sucks.
Gamespy does a great service to the MOD community by hosting web sites
for
MODs and making download servers available to distribute MODs, demos,
movies, etc.  I wonder how many MODs would never have become publicly
available if they were forced to pay an Internet hosting service to host
their MODs and pay for the download bandwidth every month.  I had been
kicked off of free web hosting sites because people downloading files
from
my web site were exceeding the monthly bandwidth limit, and I wasn't
hosting
files any larger than 5 or 6 megabytes.  I would hate to think what the
download bandwidth charges would be for something like Counter-Strike in
the
BETA version days when they released a new MOD.  Having thousands of
people
swamp your server trying to download a file 24 hours a day for the first
couple of weeks after a MOD is released doesn't sound like something I'd
want to have to pay for.

When fileplanet.com introduced the download queue, people whined about
that
to no end.  Having the download queue makes it MUCH more fair for
everyone
attempting to download a file.  You decide you want to get something,
you
wait in line, then, when it's your turn, you get what you wanted.  How
many
banks or grocery stores or other businesses have a system where everyone
who
wants something all tries to get it at the same time and only one or two
of
them are lucky enough to be picked to complete their transaction?  Not
any
that I'm aware of, in all of these businesses, you stand in line (or
queue
up) and get handled in the order that you came in.

Sure fileplanet.com charges to create CDs and they have the monthly (or
yearly) charge for members that have download servers reserved just for
them
.  But they also have public servers that don't require any monthly or
yearly fee.  All you have to do is sign up with a free account so that
they
can track how many people are using their service.  A small price to pay
for
the ability to download huge files at very high download bandwidths.

If you don't like fileplanet, that's fine.  Don't use them.  But there
aren't that many alternatives where you can go to download the latest
demos,
movies or MODs.  Sure you can try using bluesnews.com, or fileshack.com
or
any of the other gaming news sites, but on many of them, it's more of a
hit
or miss kind of thing trying to get a file you wanted and many times
(not
always) the bandwidth is between 10Kbps and 20Kbps (especially when the
server is heavily loaded).  With fileplanet.com, you click on the file
you
want, wait in line for 30 or 45 minutes, turn on the TV, crack open a
cold
one, and wait for the little download sound to indicate that your file
is
ready to begin downloading.  You download the file (many times at 50Kbps
or
higher), close your fileplanet.com window, and start playing the game.


Sorry for the long rant, but it's been kind of a slow week and there's
not
much else to do right now.  I've already broken all of my Christmas toys
and
I can't start partying for New Year's Eve yet (or I'll never make it to
midnight on December 31st).  :)


Jeffrey "botman" Broome

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