Hello Vyacheslav, Friday, October 3, 2003, 7:22:45 AM, you wrote:
VD> Hello tei, VD> well, yeah... You "TheBAT" (http://www.ritlabs.com) instead of Outlook. Believe me - it is much VD> better, much more stable and secure. Besides it doesn't use any VD> Internet Explorer controls... Yea, actually is true. What do you think about the leak? Its very interesting. The webmail side looks like novice hackers. But the custom made keylogers and remove session looks more profesional, a bit more. Maybe the door is open by novices, and some more expert crackers have use it to take over the Valve network. Its this a hacker-politic action or is a industrial spy? Maybe the target whas to force some development continue with old good Half-Life, and about to fight against Steam. Or maybe "because its posible". About mail user agents: telnet is somewhat safe, but not perfect, some guy can still flood kill your connection. Maybe a java mail user agent can be better. All static compiled mail user agnets have bugs. And all navigator have bugs. But a navigator + mail client have (simple math) x2 more bugs. OE is the target for zimbillions of hackers, and is badly coded, very poorly security design, or not security design at all. Scripting in a mail? Whats the hell? Active-X in a mail? What the FUCK!?!! OE is crap, braindead crap. And other problem is that tons and tons of people use it, ...viral problems spread very very fast. Sooo you have the worst mail user agent, at the worst escenerio and the worst users. Add water :D What you have?: Pandemia. I actually use Bat, yes, but only for a few more days. Its not perfect. Maybe Evolution is a better app, but is only for Linux (arg!). Old versions of Eudora quere good enough, but actually where... old. I dont know the next Valve move, maybe big incompatibility changes, to unable the leak source to run the media HL2 will have. I know its easy to make a engine, but medias neet a lot of work, artist, time,... Its like making a Film. The script is a small stuff. Soo you have a 600 MB cd, and the .exe its only 2MB. You cant go far with 2MB from 600... ...but this will be a problem. Because leak-coders will circunvent easy any changes Valve will made, the result: valve will only fuck itself with these changes. Of course, any anti-cheaters messure will work very well as anti-leak coders. And Steam will help to distribute new binarys has posible with more incompatibility changes. That will eventually make the source unusefull. But HL1 code is at the source, and lots of other goodies. Some guys will compile HL1 engines that will use is own Master Server software (dpmaster?). Distribution of leak-mod-engines can continue with Kazaa or other p2p tools. I dont like the way code has become public. This way the code is now "cursed", thats is not good. Hehehe... the file (name omited) is a rar file, like Russia hacker stuff :D _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders

