This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >Read about Windows VPN...
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/columns/profwin/pw0201.asp If valve has VPN setup then this would be a way for the 'hacking' described to happen. But nowhere in his post was VPN mentioned so right now this is speculation. >We're talking about a laptop here, it could have happened anywhere Nowhere in his post does he say laptop. I think you read about him travelling and read someone's forum post or something. He was talking about travelling referring to his e-mail account which has nothing to do with what type of computer he was using. >See this just isn't true. If NAT prevented applications from >making any connection in or out then few people would use it. >If the trojan on Gabes computer opened a connection to an >attacker's PC (most likely another compromised machine) NAT >will know to send the traffic to and from Gabe's computer. >Network Address Trasnlation is just that, it translates >packets from internal to external addresses and ships them >where they are going. I agree, some people have worked on one way trojans in order to bypass NAT based networks. I was discussing this with someone earlier and this was one way that we came up with, also came up with VPN btw. > No, his machine is on a NAT based network. That means you can have 500 > machines on the inside but on the outside it only appears as one machine. So > if you installed a Trojan or "remote control" software on one of those 500 > machines you couldn't connect with it. >Yes, you could. You can if the admin is nice enough to forward the ports, the only other way is to bridge the gap or have an outgoing connection. >It might be hard to understand for you, but not for someone who >knows even the least bit about trojans and networking. I would like to hear you explain the details of how a NAT protected network or NAT shielded network works. It is beyond the basics and you need to know more than you can learn off the Norton official web-site.... Sorry if I did lots of short answers but lots of stuff was directed at me. -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
