You compare code to cars?!? Well, then please make me a 1$ copy of the latest Mercedes 
and hand it over to me so I can check for security issues to help the company. Money? 
No its ok, I just don't want that your cars get broken into.
Well, if I were the car company and I was sure they wouldn't use the 'copy' for other 
things I would surely let them do their thing. You really took a bad example for your 
point Phantom. Anit cheat coders really should have a lot more insight to the source 
than hackers. And I am sure the only problem is that as a game developer you are never 
sure there is noone who gives the code out to some false friends.

Am Sat, 4 Oct 2003 18:40:08 +0100 hat Phantom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> geschrieben:

Anti-cheat coders shouldnt touch this code at all for certain. Use of this
code isnt allowed, no execptions. Its stolen property and should be treated
as such. Using it to stop cheats would be like a car alarm maker getting
hold of a stolen car and using it to work out how to stop ppl stealing them,
while the end might be a good one the use of stolen property undermines it
all. You infact contradict yourself in the end of that statement, if the
anti-cheat coders respected Valve and their code they wouldnt touch it with
someone elses 1000ft bargepole.

----- Original Message -----
From: "illogic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] RE: RELEASE HL2 ASAP TO MINIMISE THE DAMAGE ?


Not sure if this has been mentioned, but what if you release a demo, one
multimap, the e3 demo perhaps? that way its all technology that has been
seen, and you can begin to see what kind of cheats, hacks and other things
that come out, to sort of get a perspective of what the hacking community
can and will do with the code?

What im wondering is what the coders will do with the source, ie coders
like
cheating death, other programs like that that help battle cheating, what
does this mean for them? im wondering if use of source code for this type
of
situation could be allowed? maybe help the community work with you
fighting
cheats? online form, signing something, im not sure of the legal issues
surrounding that. Im just thinking if its for cheats, they dont care, but
for someone that is trying to help prevent cheats, they would of course
respects valve and its code.



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