Sigh.  Fine, forget it.  I started this thread to ask a question, got
a lot of positive feedback (including from you), and so plunged
forward to get a working area up where we could start organizing
things.  Sitting down and planning something like a wiki on pad and
paper for six weeks isn't going to work either.  In my experience its
best to just throw stuff on the wall and see what sticks, since it can
be easily changed at any time.

Trust me, I spend a LARGE amount of my time working with people on,
and doing design.  I'm middle management in software development - my
bosses always want me to stop designing and deliver, and my developers
always want to analyize forever and not commit.  Don't quote software
methodologies to me in a situation that doesn't apply.  If you don't
like the idea of having something unstructured for a few weeks, then
go ADD some structure.  That's the point of the wiki in the first
place.

But, at this point, forget it.  Someone else can set it up and deal
with the criticism from those who would rather complain, than do.

If you set one up, contact me, and I'll be happy to help edit / add /
police, whatever needs done.

And with that, I'll jump off of hlcoders again for another year or
two...   wish I could say that coming back had been fun.  Oh well
maybe in 2006.

D


On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:11:04 +1000, Bruce Bahamut Andrews
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave Sanders wrote:
>
>
>
> >>See what I mean, within 24 hours we now have two separate people talking of
> >>setting up Wikis.  One already has, and another is about to.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yep, and within 24 hours I've gone from completely loving the idea, to
> >hating it.  I sent the link around for people to brainstorm, play with
> >it and possibly talk about what content we'd want to put up, and
> >instead everyone wanted it to spring fully grown from my head like
> >Athena.
> >
> >I was planning to spend time over the next week or two (hopefully with
> >others helping) to add content, figure out primary categories,
> >continue to update the navigation, etc of the site.  I tend to go
> >toward the "here it is, lets play" mentality toward Wikis because I
> >know that if they start getting used, the information usually sorts
> >itself out fairly quickly.  Wiki's allow you to be more "evolutional"
> >with how you collect and organize the information, rather than a CMS
> >style site.
> >
> >If someone else is going to host it, run it, maintain it and deal with
> >it, I don't honestly care.  I'll probably edit it and help write /
> >organize.  Otherwise, I'll keep working on HalfLifeWiki and make any
> >major announcements here.  Probably in a day or three I'll have some
> >organization in place.  In the meantime, there is a temp page set up
> >for people to link off of and to add their own articles.
> >
> >D
> >
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> Being a coder, I thought you'd be one of those people that understand
> things that aren't designed properly well seem to inflate very fast with
> repeated information and become unmanageable...
>
> Design first, implement later. :/
>
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>
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