I think the stress must've driven him to an early retirement.

At 2006/09/03 08:15 AM, Teddy wrote:
>Any updates on this Mike? It's been a few weeks ;-P
>
>On 8/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>You must still be using the old mathlib code, because the new code is 
>>incomplete.
>>
>>Incidentally to whoever at Valve that maintains it, if you're reading this, 
>>the SDK page is incorrect, missing the 2006-08-11 update:
>>http://www.steampowered.com/platform/update_history/Source%20SDK.html
>>
>>Any ETA Valve on when the new code will be ready?  I'm trying to decide 
>>whether to release a version of my mod without Linux support, or wait until 
>>the next SDK update.
>>
>>-bk
>>
>>At 2006/08/27 10:26 PM, Teddy wrote:
>>>I got mathlib and choreo stuff compiling and running fine, now when i
>>>ld server_i486.so it says all symbols are linked, yet it still crashes
>>>at the same spot (CModAppSystemGroup::Create)
>>>
>>>On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>You reverse-engineered the missing functions?
>>>>
>>>>At 2006/08/24 03:25 AM, Teddy wrote:
>>>>>I've fixed up the choreo and mathlib linkers and made my .so, but it
>>>>>still crashes when i try to load it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Has anyone got their mod to load on linux after fixing all the linker 
>>>>>problems?
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>Please ensure it also includes the choreo* stuff, per my entries on
>>>>>>http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SDK_Known_Issues_List#Will_not_link_fully_on_Linux
>>>>>>(... and anything else that might be missing ...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 2006/08/21 08:33 PM, Mike Durand wrote:
>>>>>>>I just added it to the SDK branch. It will be included in the next SDK
>>>>>>>update. That should be coming out soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loyd
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux crashes on startup, anybody else getting
>>>>>>>this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Valve, can we have the source(s) to mathlib.lib?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>>> FYI, I have confirmed that those missing symbols are present in the
>>>>>>>MSVC .lib files.  I don't see why Valve would've done that unless they
>>>>>>>wanted to make them closed-source, but they'd already released previous
>>>>>>>versions open source, so this is one of their more mysterious breakages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 2006/08/19 09:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I thought there was a KI on this already but there wasn't...  So I
>>>>>>>added a KI entry for the srcds dlopen bug:
>>>>>>>>> http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SDK_Known_Issues_List#srcds_d
>>>>>>>>> oes_not_inform_you_that_your_mod_failed_to_load
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 2006/08/19 04:08 PM, Scott Loyd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> nice catch!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (gdb) info sharedlibrary
>>>>>>>>> >From        To          Syms Read   Shared Object Library
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00a09300  0x00a22604  Yes         /lib/tls/libm.so.6
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00a00bb0  0x00a018c4  Yes         /lib/libdl.so.2
>>>>>>>>>> 0x008e8c00  0x009d9a40  Yes         /lib/tls/libc.so.6
>>>>>>>>>> 0x008bb7a0  0x008cd59f  Yes         /lib/ld-linux.so.2
>>>>>>>>>> 0x0011f100  0x0013a6d0  Yes         bin/tier0_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00a812d0  0x00a89998  Yes         /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00c05910  0x00c0eff0  Yes         bin/vstdlib_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00b50960  0x00b9b6e0  Yes         bin/dedicated_amd.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x003fa5a0  0x0041c0e0  Yes         bin/soundemittersystem_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00199860  0x002292a0  Yes         bin/materialsystem_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00448330  0x0049a7f0  Yes         bin/studiorender_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00cc96a0  0x00e542d0  Yes         bin/vphysics_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00271520  0x002a9ff0  Yes         bin/datacache_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x00ff8fe0  0x011e4020  Yes         bin/engine_amd.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x03995410  0x03a5b040  Yes
>>>>>>>>>> bin/libsteamvalidateuseridtickets_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x002b85f0  0x002c3a50  Yes         bin/steam_api_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>> 0x002d63a0  0x002d89e0  Yes         bin/shaderapiempty_i486.so
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure it was even your mod .so that got loaded?  Due to
>>>>>>>>>>> http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SDK_Known_Issues_List#Will_
>>>>>>>>>>> not_link_fully_on_Linux it seems likely that you would have
>>>>>>>>>>> compiled a mod .so that was not even loadable, due to missing
>>>>>>>linker symbols.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Due to the long-standing, often-lamented srcds bug where it fails
>>>>>>>to print dlerror() messages and abort when the .so is unloadable, you
>>>>>>>would not be aware that it was actually sneakily loading some other .so.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At 2006/08/15 08:11 PM, Scott Loyd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything new on this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Teddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're having the same problem at the moment, haven't been able to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a workaround for it yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/11/06, Mike Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gavin-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This issue appears to be well-known and we are working on a fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gavin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:53 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlcoders] Linux crashes on startup, anybody else
>>>>>>>getting this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are people's Linux builds working at the moment? While I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile (using the changes on the KI page), the server crashes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as soon as it starts up. This happens right after "Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initialized" and occurs both with an existing mod and a fresh
>>>>>>>"start a mod from scratch".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The server has been fully updated with the steam update tool,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gameinfo.txt is using the new 215 biz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the last moments:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #0  0x00000000 in ?? ()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #1  0xb730d693 in CModAppSystemGroup::Create () from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bin/engine_i686.so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #2  0xb740f3ff in CAppSystemGroup::Run () from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bin/engine_i686.so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #3  0xb730dfff in CDedicatedServerAPI::ModInit () from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bin/engine_i686.so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #4  0xb7d7b24a in CDedicatedAppSystemGroup::Main () from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bin/dedicated_i686.so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #5  0xb7da8d43 in CAppSystemGroup::Run () from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bin/dedicated_i686.so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #6  0xb7da8d43 in CAppSystemGroup::Run () from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bin/dedicated_i686.so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #7  0xb7d7b60f in main () from bin/dedicated_i686.so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #8  0x0804909e in main ()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gavin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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