This is getting quite ridiculous.
1) Finding an exploit does not make you an exploiter (i.e. someone who
*actively* uses the exploit to achieve an unfair advantage over other
players). Where did that logic come from? And if anything, as a
developer I would be *overjoyed* if people spent time finding exploits
and telling me about them.
2) Keeper said he was going to help out any way he could. Just because
he didn't explicitly say that he's sending a full report to Valve right
at this moment does not mean that he hasn't or won't. Now if he didn't
or won't (and that's an *if*), then it would be shame on him. But we
don't know that do we?
3) He definitely should not post any information about the exploits
here. This Utopian notion that everyone reading the list has only the
best of intentions at heart is utterly naive. If I was a hacker this
would be the first mailing list I joined since specifics of inner
workings of the game and engine are discussed on a regular basis. Any
details should be kept confidential and sent directly to Valve.
4) I'm not a huge fan of people calling each other morons or other
names even when they do behave a little out of line
(*cough*botman*cough*) since that's just asking for things to spiral
into a flame battle and doesn't help the situation at all. However with
you (Nick) posting such blatant misinformation and slander I can't say I
didn't see it coming.
Fin.
- Zipster
Nick wrote:
I don't know what you have to gain from defending an exploiter, but it
really isn't my place to judge. I don't know if you and Keeper are
friends or working together, but please don't turn this around and
start attacking me for no reason. Exploits should be given to Valve,
so Valve can fix them and help everyone out.
On 9/20/07, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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How do you know he hasn't already sent the information to Valve? Those sort
of exchanges wouldn't be advertised to the mailing list. Your statements
were out of line and just plain wrong. It's poor taste to spout blatant BS
too, which is why you got called on it.
J
On 9/20/07, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To Valve. He's willing to email them privately to Valve, which is what
everyone SHOULD do if they are aware of exploits
I don't know why he hasn't done this yet.
You, sir, are a moron and really aren't worth the time it took me to
compose this email.
If I had exploits, the first thing I would do would be to email Valve
and give them all of the help I could in reproducing and fixing them.
I wouldn't post on this mailing list about the numerous exploits I
found, and refuse to offer assistance in fixing them(like keeper did).
Personally, I find it very poor taste to call others names, especially
when you are the one mistaken here, not me. I could say that your IQ
is similar to your age, but I am not rude like that, and it would
probably take you a few minutes to fully understand anyway.
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