-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Guys, as was said, Please keep the arguing about exploits/who is an exploiter/what have you off the email list. We don't need our inboxes filled with a 40 email long argument. Email each other personally or take it to a forum somewhere please.
- Khaim - Lunar Wind - On 9/20/07, Skyler York <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is getting quite ridiculous. > > 1) Finding an exploit does not make you an exploiter (i.e. someone who > *actively* uses the exploit to achieve an unfair advantage over other > players). Where did that logic come from? And if anything, as a > developer I would be *overjoyed* if people spent time finding exploits > and telling me about them. > > 2) Keeper said he was going to help out any way he could. Just because > he didn't explicitly say that he's sending a full report to Valve right > at this moment does not mean that he hasn't or won't. Now if he didn't > or won't (and that's an *if*), then it would be shame on him. But we > don't know that do we? > > 3) He definitely should not post any information about the exploits > here. This Utopian notion that everyone reading the list has only the > best of intentions at heart is utterly naive. If I was a hacker this > would be the first mailing list I joined since specifics of inner > workings of the game and engine are discussed on a regular basis. Any > details should be kept confidential and sent directly to Valve. > > 4) I'm not a huge fan of people calling each other morons or other > names even when they do behave a little out of line > (*cough*botman*cough*) since that's just asking for things to spiral > into a flame battle and doesn't help the situation at all. However with > you (Nick) posting such blatant misinformation and slander I can't say I > didn't see it coming. > > Fin. > > - Zipster > > Nick wrote: > > >I don't know what you have to gain from defending an exploiter, but it > >really isn't my place to judge. I don't know if you and Keeper are > >friends or working together, but please don't turn this around and > >start attacking me for no reason. Exploits should be given to Valve, > >so Valve can fix them and help everyone out. > > > >On 9/20/07, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>-- > >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >>How do you know he hasn't already sent the information to Valve? Those > sort > >>of exchanges wouldn't be advertised to the mailing list. Your statements > >>were out of line and just plain wrong. It's poor taste to spout blatant > BS > >>too, which is why you got called on it. > >> > >>J > >> > >>On 9/20/07, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>>To Valve. He's willing to email them privately to Valve, which is > what > >>>>everyone SHOULD do if they are aware of exploits > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I don't know why he hasn't done this yet. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>You, sir, are a moron and really aren't worth the time it took me to > >>>>compose this email. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>If I had exploits, the first thing I would do would be to email Valve > >>>and give them all of the help I could in reproducing and fixing them. > >>>I wouldn't post on this mailing list about the numerous exploits I > >>>found, and refuse to offer assistance in fixing them(like keeper did). > >>>Personally, I find it very poor taste to call others names, especially > >>>when you are the one mistaken here, not me. I could say that your IQ > >>>is similar to your age, but I am not rude like that, and it would > >>>probably take you a few minutes to fully understand anyway. > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>please visit: > >>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
