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TBH I am not sure exactly. I believe it stopped working after I threw
away my perfectly functioning XP installation and installed Vista D:
I generally code and haven't used the other SDK tools very much in
the last year or so, but my current mod project is ramping up and I
am using Model Viewer almost daily, so the impact is much more
significant...I have read many other accounts of people with the same
issue however some have been resolved with driver updates whilst
others are unresolved.

The programmer in me thinks that the crash could be worked around in
the MV/FP tools window initialization code, but I don't expect Valve
to spend their time writing workarounds for dodgy drivers/api's...

deegz


On 29/10/2007, at 1:28 AM, "Tony \"omega\" Sergi" wrote:

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> when exactly did the problem start?
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> On 10/28/07, Chris Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Thank you all for your replies. I haven't been able to rectify the
>> crash but I won't pursue it on this list since it just might be some
>> sort of software/driver/os/pebkac issue.. albeit still broken...FWIW,
>> here is my system:
>>
>> OS: Vista 32bit, Directx 10.0
>> Card: Asus EN8800GTS 320 @ 1440x900
>> Driver: was NVidia 163.69, but I just upgraded to OEM driver version
>> 163.71 since first post (still crashes)
>>
>> Model Viewer crashes same as before, no window shown, Face Poser
>> inits a window then crashes in shaderapidx9 as well. It seems strange
>> that these would be the only apps on my whole system affected by
>> this. For now I will just continue changing rez's and blaming dx10 :D
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> deegz
>>
>> On 27/10/2007, at 11:28 PM, "Tony \"omega\" Sergi" wrote:
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>>> my laptop can run the tools at 1440x900 as well, granted, it has an
>>> intel
>>> chip not ATI. (but is dx9 compat.. just slow).
>>> and my desktop is 1680x1050..
>>>
>>> oh and i dunno if this makes a diff, but my laptop is also vista..
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/27/07, Tom Leighton < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm running a non 4:3 resolution ( 1280x800 ), tools work fine (ATI
>>>> Mobility Radeon X100 - 128mb vram)
>>>>
>>>> Tony "omega" Sergi wrote:
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>>>>> seeing 'shaderapi' in there, and the fact that my resolution
>>>>> isn't 4:3
>>>> and i
>>>>> can run all the tools perfectly fine myself, it sounds like this
>>>>> is a
>>>> driver
>>>>> issue with your card, probably at initialization of the viewport
>>>>> in hlmv
>>>> (or
>>>>> face poser).
>>>>>
>>>>> it doesn't matter what resolution I use, the tools work
>>>> fine.  Somethings
>>>>> not right on your system. I suggest you try a) upgrading your
>>>>> video
>>>> drivers
>>>>> b) make sure that directx is updated.. c) i'm not sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> what video card do you have, for one thing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/27/07, Chris Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello All!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I'm pushing the limits of 'this is coding, not a tools
>>>>>> list'
>>>>>> but I figure someone here may be able to answer. My main display
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> is 1440x900 and unfortunately I cannot run either Model Viewer or
>>>>>> Face Poser without them crashing at startup. To make either
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> run I just change my desktop res to 1280x1024 or any other 4:3
>>>>>> aspect
>>>>>> mode and the tools start up fine. I have done it like this for
>>>>>> months
>>>>>> now, and to be honest it's starting to get tedious :P  Is this
>>>>>> something that is going to be fixed in Source 2007 SDK tools (is
>>>>>> there a release soon?) and is there something I can do now to
>>>>>> rectify
>>>>>> this...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crash:
>>>>>> Faulting application hlmv.exe, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp
>>>>>> 0x457e150f, faulting module shaderapidx9.dll, version 0.0.0.0,
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> stamp 0x46b3cee6, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset
>>>>>> 0x0001141a,
>>>>>> process id 0x12f0, application start time 0x01c81867adde4bc0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> deegz
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