In that case, he is either lying, or has somehow gotten the same 
checksum as another cheat by accident.

Remember that we do  NOT know definitively how VAC works, and can only 
ASSUME it's using checksums, and is not detecting any kind of core 
system hooks or anything like that...

The only reason that checksums come to mind is that it's pretty 
definitive cheat detection, but not 100% definitive depending on what 
they're using.

Olly wrote:
> I wasn't refering to anyone, but just to say that just because everyone
> knows someone, doesn't mean you should always trust them. Maybe I am wrong
> (I hope I am) and this is a mistake on valves end. But you see too many
> posts like this from people that try to find any excuse to get their games
> back.
> Sorry if I caused any offence, it wasn't meant ><
>
> 2008/11/5 Saul Rennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> Garry Glitter is a kiddie fiddler, that's quite offensive if your
>> referencing the OP. All of us that have posted here have been (legally)
>> playing CS:S since Day 1.
>>
>> 2008/11/5 Olly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>     
>>> Garry glitter is well known, has been around for a loooonog time, and
>>> doesn't post here often, but would you believe anything he would say
>>>       
>> about
>>     
>>> what he gets up-to in his spare time?
>>>
>>> 2008/11/5 Keeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> #1) these guys are not unknown.  They have been around for a looooong
>>>>         
>>> time.
>>>       
>>>> Just not active on this list.
>>>>
>>>> #2) Do you honestly think anybody here gives any credence to your
>>>>         
>>> opinion?
>>>       
>>>> Especially now that you admit to having cheated multiple times???  Nah,
>>>> just
>>>> do us all a favor and unsubscribe.
>>>>
>>>> Dang, now I've responded to you and am all out of troll food. :(
>>>>
>>>> Good day!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:28 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] WARNING: VAC may be banning developers by
>>>> misdetecting server plugins as cheats.
>>>>
>>>> I call bullshit on this entire mess. Seems like someone got vac
>>>> banned, and now they want to blame it on custom plugin or some crap.
>>>> The 10 unknown people (who have never posted here before) entering
>>>> this discussion "ensuring" that this isn't a cheater who got banned
>>>> for hacking only reinforces my belief.
>>>>
>>>> I have never, ever heard of anyone being vac banned falsely. Also, I
>>>> have used cheats many times and not been banned. You get what I am
>>>> saying?
>>>>
>>>>
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>> - Saul.
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