Tell us please. Why isn't valve smart enough or caring enough to make a proper parser for linux?? ? Why do we developers have to constantly put up with this completely bs compile system for linux?
Tell us, because i really want to know. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Tony Sergi <[email protected]> wrote: > Vcprojtomake does not take in account for files that are 'excluded from > build' so if in windows there is a cpp file in the solution that under > properties is 'excluded from build' it will compile in linux, but not VS. > > > -Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Watkins > Sent: January-27-09 7:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux server disconnects > > When an up-to-date client.dll is not present on the server, a warning > message similar to "Your client dll is different from the server's" is > shown before immediately before the disconnect, but regardless, the > disconnect is always the same old: > "Server uses different class tables" > > This is with a blank HL2MP mod, and it works fine with a windows server, > built using an identical file list in the VS server project as the linux > uses in its makefile (though the makefile only uses the .cpp files). > > Can anyone confirm / deny whether (and how) the VS project could compile > additional cpp files that aren't listed in the project file, and so are > missed when generating the linux makefile? > > Thanks, > Andrew > > > >> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:52:49 -0800 >> From: Tony Sergi <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux server disconnects >> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> >> <7315746f7efcaf4a93699ce8fa579786148ec29...@exchange07.valvesoftware.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Only the client needs the server.dll to exist, for the network table check. >> The client engine loads them from the serverdll, and then compares. >> >> >> -Tony >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma >> Sent: January-24-09 8:14 PM >> To: 'Discussion of Half-Life Programming' >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux server disconnects >> >> But the server could still perform a checksum or something on it. Have you >> tried changing the DLL on the Linux server and seeing if clients can still >> connect? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Olly >> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:53 PM >> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux server disconnects >> >> I'm telling you, linux cant read dll's, and there is never a client_i486.so >> >< >> >> 2009/1/24 Nick <[email protected]> >> >> > I am not sure about that at all. Servers always check client binaries. >> > Can someone else check this for us? >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Olly <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Linux cant/doesn't read DLLs, they are for windows only. In any case, >> > there >> > > is no need for a client 'binary' for a server >> > > >> > > 2009/1/23 Nick <[email protected]> >> > > >> > >> I've had this problem before. I think the problem was solved by running >> > >> >> > >> ./steam -command update -game >> > >> >> > >> is the correct way i think. I don't remember if the linux server >> > >> needed the exact same dll's as the clients but i would make sure both >> > >> the client and the server have the exact same DLLS. >> > >> >> > >> Yes, running a blank hl2mp mod is probably the best idea. Although, I >> > >> don't even know if that that works out of the box. Goodluck, I hope u >> > >> get it working >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Watkins <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > Update: after some mucking around in notepad++ & excel, I can confirm >> > >> > that the file list for the linux server is identical to the list of >> > .cpp >> > >> > files included in the visual studio project. Not much of a surprise, >> > >> > given that one was used to generate the other. I can also confirm >> that >> > >> > there's definately no network tables inside windows-only defines. >> > >> > >> > >> > Lastly, I tried hosting a TF2 server, and the build numbers shown in >> > the >> > >> > console were the same as with my mod, so that's definately not to >> > blame >> > >> > either. >> > >> > >> > >> > What else could be causing the "Server uses different class tables" >> > >> > disconnect, and only for the linux server? I haven't got the >> slightest >> > >> > idea at this point. Is it worth checking to see if a blank hl2mp mod >> > >> > works? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > >> > Andrew >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 14:12 -0800, >> > >> > [email protected] wrote: >> > >> >> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:42:52 +0000 >> > >> >> From: Andrew Watkins <[email protected]> >> > >> >> Subject: [hlcoders] Linux server disconnects >> > >> >> To: [email protected] >> > >> >> Message-ID: <1232397772.8330.7.ca...@2800mhz> >> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Thanks to Nick's suggestion, I've managed to get my linux server >> > >> >> compiled & running. Turns out the error was down to the way I'd >> > linked >> > >> >> the sqlite dll, that had been one of the things I'd thought of, but >> > it >> > >> >> seems that I hadn't removed the sqlite header include from one file, >> > and >> > >> >> that was messing things up. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Now I have a server that I can try to connect to, but when I try to >> > >> >> connect, very near the end of the process I get disconnected with >> the >> > >> >> error: >> > >> >> Server uses different class tables >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Normally I'd have expected this to say which network table / value >> > was >> > >> >> missing or incorrect, but there's nothing. I'm pretty damn sure all >> > the >> > >> >> same files are being used by linux as by Visual studio; I've been >> > >> >> through my makefiles many times over. I really can't see anything >> > thats >> > >> >> in one & not the other, though I guess its possible I'm being dumb >> > here. >> > >> >> I can't find any network tables that are within #ifdef _WIN32 or >> > >> >> anything like that - strikes me that would be a bit ridiculous if it >> > >> >> were the case anyway. Anyone run into this error with a linux >> server? >> > >> >> >> > >> >> One thing that I do notice - when I try to connect to the linux >> > server, >> > >> >> it lists its Build version as 3691, but when I run a listen server, >> > it >> > >> >> says its Build 3704. Now I've repeatedly run the update commands for >> > the >> > >> >> linux server, but its not loading any other updates. Could this >> > version >> > >> >> issue be behind my network table issue, or is that just the way its >> > >> >> meant to be? >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Thanks for any insight anyone has to offer >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Andrew >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Message: 5 >> > >> >> > Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:50:06 -0600 >> > >> >> > From: Nick <[email protected]> >> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux binary runtime error >> > >> >> > To: "Discussion of Half-Life Programming" >> > >> >> > <[email protected]> >> > >> >> > Message-ID: >> > >> >> > <[email protected]> >> > >> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > can you try debugging with gdb? starting srcds with gdb is a real >> > >> >> > pain, but generally you can hook to srcds process easily enough... >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Andrew Watkins <[email protected]> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > > Hey list, >> > >> >> > > Still having srcds linux issues. I've discovered I can force it >> > to >> > >> use >> > >> >> > > only my binary with the -binary command, and now I get a crash >> > >> related >> > >> >> > > to my binary, although I wouldn't exactly call it meaningful. >> The >> > >> debug >> > >> >> > > log looks like this: >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> > > CRASH: Sat Dec 27 17:48:18 GMT 2008 >> > >> >> > > Start Line: modularcombat/bin/server_i486.so -game modularcombat >> > >> -binary >> > >> >> > > modularcombat/bin/server_i486.so -debug >> > >> >> > > Core was generated by `modularcombat/bin/server_i486.so -game >> > >> >> > > modularcombat -binary modularcombat/bin/'. >> > >> >> > > Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. >> > >> >> > > [New process 27928] >> > >> >> > > #0 0xb73fa536 in __do_global_dtors_aux () >> > >> >> > > #0 0xb73fa536 in __do_global_dtors_aux () >> > >> >> > > #1 0xb73fa4f9 in CMemoryStack::CMemoryStack () >> > >> >> > > #2 0x00000000 in ?? () >> > >> >> > > Current language: auto; currently asm >> > >> >> > > No locals. >> > >> >> > > No shared libraries loaded at this time. >> > >> >> > > Stack level 0, frame at 0xbf906e08: >> > >> >> > > eip = 0xb73fa536 in __do_global_dtors_aux; saved eip 0xb73fa4f9 >> > >> >> > > called by frame at 0xbf906e0c >> > >> >> > > source language asm. >> > >> >> > > Arglist at 0xbf906e00, args: >> > >> >> > > Locals at 0xbf906e00, Previous frame's sp is 0xbf906e08 >> > >> >> > > Saved registers: >> > >> >> > > eip at 0xbf906e04 >> > >> >> > > End of Source crash report >> > >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > I'm guessing a crash in the CMemoryStack constructor means that >> > >> >> > > something's gone stupid, but I'm clueless as to what. Any >> > >> suggestions? >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > Thanks, >> > >> >> > > Andrew >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:12:59 +0000 >> > >> >> > >> From: Andrew Watkins <[email protected]> >> > >> >> > >> Subject: [hlcoders] Linux binary runtime error >> > >> >> > >> To: [email protected] >> > >> >> > >> Message-ID: <1230160379.8788.10.ca...@2800mhz> >> > >> >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Ok, so I've finally built a linux binary for my mod, and I've >> > >> managed >> > >> >> > >> to >> > >> >> > >> fix several undefined symbol errors that come up when I try to >> > run >> > >> a >> > >> >> > >> dedicated server (locally) using it. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> But this last one has me stumped, while all the rest have shown >> > up >> > >> in >> > >> >> > >> my >> > >> >> > >> mod's server_i486.so, having corrected all of those, I'm now >> > >> getting >> > >> >> > >> undefined symbol: GetCVarIF in the *hl2mp* server_i486.so! >> > >> >> > >> Why this could be I don't know, my mod's an orange box >> > hl2dm-based >> > >> >> > >> affair, but its running on AppID 218, definately not 320. >> > Changing >> > >> to >> > >> >> > >> to >> > >> >> > >> 440 has no effect on this error. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> I realise its to be expected that hl2dm would fail if loaded >> > into >> > >> the >> > >> >> > >> OB >> > >> >> > >> engine, like appears to be happening. It shouldn't be happening >> > >> >> > >> though! >> > >> >> > >> We've previously worked out whats required to run a dedicated >> > >> server >> > >> >> > >> (on >> > >> >> > >> windows) and typically go for one with hl2dm and tf2 installed >> - >> > >> all >> > >> >> > >> of >> > >> >> > >> this may not be necessary, but we know it works. I can run both >> > a >> > >> tf2 >> > >> >> > >> & >> > >> >> > >> an hl2dm server locally without problems. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> So, two questions: >> > >> >> > >> 1. Where is GetCVarIF defined? >> > >> >> > >> 2. Why on earth is it trying to load the hl2dm binaries? >> There's >> > no >> > >> >> > >> such issue on windows... >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, and merry Christmas :) >> > >> >> > >> -Andrew >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > >> archives, please visit: >> > >> >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, >> > >> please visit: >> > >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > >> please visit: >> > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > >> please visit: >> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
