Without knowing how the debug code works it's hard to say what that means. But
it's still definitely a networking problem rather than something that's
happening on the server. What happens when a predicted player walks around the
affected object, hugging it tightly?
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From: Maarten De Meyer <maar...@off-limits.be>
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, 19 February, 2011 11:14:39
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Physics props 90° angle snap issue - (linux?)
vcollide_wireframe moves together with the mesh I'm afraid.
On 19/02/2011 11:52, Tom Edwards wrote:
If you look closely, the collision model doesn't change. It's
only the visual, client-side mesh that's out of place. Try using
vcollide_wireframe to see what's really going on.
>
>
>
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From: Jonathan Murphy <nuclearfri...@gmail.com>
>To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com>
>Sent: Saturday, 19 February, 2011 10:41:28
>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Physics props 90° angle snap issue -
>(linux?)
>
>In my experience it is unlikely to be a Linux specific issue, and
>more of a prediction issue. Try introducing fake lag on a listen
>server (net_fakelag 200) and seeing if the issue is reproducable.
>That should make it much easier to debug.
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Maarten De Meyer
><maar...@off-limits.be> wrote:
>
>Yes, they are.
________________________________
From: Jonathan Murphy
>>Sent: zaterdag 19 februari 2011 11:02
>>To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming
>>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Physics props 90° angle snap
>>issue -
>>(linux?)
>>
>>
>>
>>Would be a interesting clue to know if all players are
>>seeing exactly the same thing?
>>
>>
>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Joel R.
>><joelru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Have you tested it on a windows dedicated server?
>>Listenservers don't act entirely the same as
>>dedicated
>>servers. It appears like the angle of the physics
>>object is updating a bad networked angle value.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Maarten De
>>>Meyer <maar...@off-limits.be> wrote:
>>>
>>>As great as Noir Desir's song is,
>>>obviously
>>>it's not what I wanted to show :D
>>>>Here's the real vid with the issue:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhmrP6eSAek
>>>>
>>>>sorry for that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 19/02/2011 9:15, Maarten De
>>>>Meyer
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi list,
>>>>>
>>>>>we're facing an issue I don't
>>>>>immediately know where to start
>>>>>to
>>>>>debug. Basically, in all of our
>>>>>maps,
>>>>>some physics props have an issue
>>>>>where
>>>>>the orientation of their model
>>>>>
>>>>>snaps at 90° angles
>>>>>instantaneously.
>>>>>This is not only with props, but
>>>>>also
>>>>>eg with our vehicles, so I'm
>>>>>
>>>>>looking suspicously at vphysics
>>>>>:). In
>>>>>addition, this only seems to
>>>>>happen on
>>>>>our linux server. Not 100% sure,
>>>>>
>>>>>since it does not happen
>>>>>consistently
>>>>>on all props, but we've tried
>>>>>reproducing it a lot on a
>>>>>windows
>>>>>listenserver without success,
>>>>>and on
>>>>>our linux dedicated server it
>>>>>
>>>>>happens frequently. Here's a
>>>>>video of
>>>>>the issue:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrgcRvBJYBE
>>>>>
>>>>>At one point we had a vehicle
>>>>>that
>>>>>stood still with a driver in it,
>>>>>and
>>>>>it did a 'snap' at nearly fixed
>>>>>intervals of several seconds.
>>>>>Player
>>>>>got out, it went away, player
>>>>>
>>>>>stepped in, it was back (
>>>>>another
>>>>>reason for me to look at
>>>>>vphysics with
>>>>>the evil eye ).
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm hoping someone has hit this
>>>>>issue
>>>>>before, or can at least point me
>>>>>in
>>>>>the right direction, or, a
>>>>>method for
>>>>>debugging this. Since I'm not
>>>>>sure if
>>>>>it's related to vphysics linux
>>>>>internals, the linux build
>>>>>machine/settings, networking
>>>>>tolerances, ... I'm not sure
>>>>>where to
>>>>>start looking.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any feedback ( or
>>>>>sympathy
>>>>>:D ),
>>>>>
>>>>>Maarten
>>>>>
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