When you admin a server, you get client questions from visitors ... I find
running the server, I have client issues as well simply because I actually
play on my server ...  Because of the sometimes client question, I get
answers to questions I didn't even ask ...

I agree that the sometimes client question does have a correlation to
running the server ...  But if simply end users were abusing our wonderful
admin powers via this list, yes, that would bother me seeing as there's
already a forum for this, and the mail traffic would triple ...

At 01:38 PM 10/04/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Something I think list members should keep in mind with regard to on or off
>topic threads, is that in the client/server paradigm, the client is useless
>without the server.
>
>Thus, regarding the recent 1108 update, some of the issues it has created,
>the nature of this list, AND Valve's direct participation in this list, I
>think these types of questions are well suited here.
>
>It is my opinion (and I would hope the opinion of other members as well)
>that this list is a resource for all people involved with serving or
>adminning HL servers.  If a member has a client question or issue, why not
>discuss it and help with the resolution?  Isn't the purpose of this list to
>help others who are having problems?  I think many of us have forgotten
>that...
>
>I may be wrong, but I don't know of any mailing list or forum for client
>questions that could have successfully handled this issue for him.  If this
>is not the case, please let me know where to go for issues of this type.
>
>I've found over the last year that this list is the best source of knowledge
>for ALL aspects of HL, not just HLDS.
>
>Before slamming someone for being what you consider [OT], think first about
>what other avenue the poster might pursue to get his/her question/issue
>answered or resolved.  If you can't suggest one, don't hammer the poster for
>being supposedly [OT].  If you can, direct the poster of the [OT] message to
>the appropriate location he/she should visit to resolve the problem.  This
>list exists to help other gamers, not to discourage them.  I was kind of
>hoping that with Deacon being gone from the list now, that this kind of
>mentality would gradually disappear from the list...
>
>If none of the other list members feels like answering the question, they
>won't.
>
>StanTheMan
>TheHardwareFreak
>www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard C. Ryzner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:58 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [OT]Re: 1.1.0.8
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it client or server, sounds like client to me. If im wrong
> > my apologies.
> > But in the initial post he stated in regards to his getting
> > on the web and
> > playing.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stan Hoeppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: [OT]Re: 1.1.0.8
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hmm..  I don't see how this thread is off topic.  They're
> > having a problem
> > > with a MOD that seems to have been broken by the 1108
> > update.  I'd say
> > this
> > > is perfectly on topic.
> > >
> > > StanTheMan
> > > TheHardwareFreak
> > > www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Richard C. Ryzner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:39 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [OT]Re: 1.1.0.8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kindly [OT] stuff like this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ryan McCullough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:20 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: 1.1.0.8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm, this is a question that I do not have the answers to.
> > > > You should
> > > > email
> > > > > eric smith or erik johnson about this.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] should do it. Let us know what
> > you find out.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Noah Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2025 6:18 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: 1.1.0.8
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a OpFor 1.1.0.6 patch, but I needed the HL patch
> > > > to play online,
> > > > > I'm still getting the "cannot join server running
> > different protocol
> > > > > version."  OpFor still runs the file hl.exe, so the patch
> > > > should work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Noah
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ryan McCullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:57 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: 1.1.0.8
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What patch are you trying to run? I don't think you can run
> > > > the HL1108
> > > > patch
> > > > > on blueshift. I didn't see an opposing force 1108 patch
> > either. Most
> > > > likely
> > > > > nothing changed, or valve is no longer supporting this.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Noah Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2025 5:43 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: 1.1.0.8
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have e-mailed Sierra, I have posted on numerous message
> > > > boards, and I
> > > > > still haven't gotten a reasonable answer to my problem.  I
> > > > am using OpFor
> > > > on
> > > > > the Blue-Shift cd, but when I try to install the latest
> > > > patch, it says I'm
> > > > > running the [space] version of half-life, and the patch is
> > > > for the english
> > > > > version.  Seeing as I can read the menus, I believe I have
> > > > the english
> > > > > version, but it seems to think I have no language version.
> > > > I think this
> > > > has
> > > > > something to do with the sierra.inf or language.inf files,
> > > > but I'm not
> > > > sure.
> > > > > If someone (that has the patch working) could send a copy
> > > > of those files
> > > > for
> > > > > me to compare?  I have already tried re-re-re-installing
> > > > opfor, but no
> > > > luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Noah
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >


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