Sharza, the problem is most cheats DE-ACTIVATE themselves right before
the screenshot is taken, and re-activate themselves immediately after
the screen is taken. And what's worse, is that this is so instant that
you can't even notice it, literally. And practically every major cheat
has this. That's why things like X-Spectate are useless.

A tool that forced people to record for 2 minutes, wouldn't show
anything that you can't see spectating, either. I guess that would be
useful if you weren't at the server at that particular time, but
ultimately you can just use HLTV.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [YG]Sharza
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SV: [hlds] OT: X-Spectate : Any thoughts?

> Hacks don't show up on screenshots. End of story.
>
> Punkbuster is worthless, in the fact that you can download a program
that
> tricks pbuster into thinking its running.
It would only be usefull if built into the engine itself, as adminmod is
not directly running on the
the client machine and could not get a screen shot of the client
machines videomemory.

Cheats themselves does not show up that's correct, but not end of story.
Because if someone is
wallhacking, you would be able to see that from a direct screen dump, as
you would see what the
cheater sees, thus the transparent walls and the tracers and the glowing
enemies for some cheats
would obviously blow him wide open.

Next thing is that many cheats, ogc for instance brags about being so
easy to use and hell, most of
the cheaters screen is full of on-screen menus, thus once again blowing
the cheaters cover.

Some cheats of course will be able to disguise themselves, but once
again, many times this will rely
on the technical skills of the cheater him/herself to install and
configure such a cheat correctly,
and mostly its poor souls with a burning need to be better than others
and able to own who cheats.

So the end of the story would be, that even though it doesn't reveal any
cheater, a lot of cheaters
could be spotted immediately, even for instance a 2 minute background
demo recording with
transparent walls as an opposite for the x-spec thing and uploading it
to the server in compressed
format or similar for the admin to spectate and see what happens.

Another thing is that I seem to notice that the amount of cheaters using
especially aimbot and wh's
is rising again, is other noticing the same thing, eventually before
they were almost completely
gone after vac was updated rapidly, but seems to be returning and not
being caught.

Is there any way to report a cheater's steamed with attached demo's in
order to get their license
deactivated from steam enabled servers?

L8r,
  Sharza



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