Well taking everything extremely literally is what happens when you deal with twelve year olds because they do not have the capacity for abstract thought (in most cases) and that is why defines them we we short handedly label a person or group of people as 12 year olds, and the fact I have to explain that to some of you means I'm probably dealing with a bunch of people who although in age may not be 12 years old, certainly like to act the part when they decide they want to take offense at being labeled "12 year olds" or the use of that term, even when it doesn't apply to them.
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:35:05 +0100, Mick Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well said Dennis!! > > Mick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:41 PM > Subject: [hlds] [OT] The "community" > > > All of a sudden I'm reading messages from pissed-off elitists saying that > > servers run from a home connection are somehow meaningless, run by > > 12-year-olds, poorly run, or otherwise insignificant. While this is > > certainly true in many cases, there ARE some that are well run by people > who > > have just as much pride in running a clean, fun, and yes, well-liked > server > > as you do. > > > > Point one: Like it or not, EVERY ONE of them is part of the same > "community" > > that you guys who do it for the money are. Don't forget, the original > intent > > of CS, DoD, TFC, etc. was exactly that. The community was MEANT to be game > > enthusiasts running servers from home connections. At some point someone > > figured out that they could install a server on their T1 line at work and > > host a much larger game. From there it evolved into commercial ventures as > > the high bandwidth connections became more prevalent. I know because I > > watched it happen. > > > > Point two: I'm much, MUCH older than 12, and probably older than just > about > > everyone on this list. I ran a small TFC server from my cable connection > > until WON went down, and I had pretty much only regulars, which tells me I > > was doing something right. I did daily maintenance, read the logs to see > who > > was causing trouble when there was no admin, and strictly enforced the > rules > > to prevent anyone from spoiling the fun for everyone else. I'm sure I'm > not > > the only one with a cable server who did this. That's a lot more than I > can > > say for most of you people and your 3 Ghz, dual-Zeon, 2 gig RAM, T3's. > > > > Example: I was on a 32-player server last night, and things were great for > a > > while. The troublemakers were warned and kicked as necessary. Then, after > > about 4 or 5 games the admin must have gotten bored or something, because > > there were 15 on his team, and 10 on mine. When people complained he > ignored > > them. His team was doing nothing but spamming respawn, which was > supposedly > > a serious offense, and he thought is was hilarious. They were encouraged > to > > do more. I finally had to leave out of disgust. The reason I mention this > is > > because this is NOT the exception to the rule. Whether you people know it > or > > not, some of YOUR servers are run this way - maybe when you're not there > to > > see it, but it happens. What good is a screaming fast box and > mega-bandwidth > > when no one is having fun? You want to know what's splintering the > > community? THIS IS IT! I very very RARELY have seen a truly well run > server. > > > > Point three: The reason I ran a server from my cable connection was to > learn > > as much as I could before investing the big bucks on a rented server. > Again, > > I'm sure many others are doing this. If you do NOT do this, then IMO you > are > > a fool. As we all know, until you've actually run a server you have no > idea > > the unimaginable problems you're going to have. Why waste tremendous > amounts > > of money, time, and resources, not to mention your reputation, while > you're > > learning and experimenting? > > > > Anyway, my point is that you shouldn't just disregard every server with a > > slower connection than you just because you're jealous that you're no > longer > > on the top of the server list. It shows your incredible ignorance of > what's > > REALLY going on. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
