Who knows? Nobody by the sounds of it?
And you get in trouble if you try to bring somebody to account or try to raise the profile of the issue in anyway whatsoever because people think you are doing it for your ego and it obviously has nothing to do with not having to deal with fucktards on servers day in and day out and wasting more than half your day everyday trying to get rid of people who's only reason for being on the server is to be as a disruptive as possible because you have to play by the rules and you can't just jump onto one of your core routers and blow 100GB of data down the line at them rendering the tards internet connection effectively useless or blowing away any download limits they though they had. But hey, lets just stick our heads in the sand and play deaf, dumb, blind & stupid in the hope that Valve "fix" the problem because we just know how technically proficient and commmunicative Valve have been in the past on these issues. Mushrooms anybody? On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:45:30 -0300, Marcelo de Paula Bezerra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly, and account with a steamid, but no games. > > On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 12:34 -0500, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: > > You can make a steam account with no CD-KEY. > > > > - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Whisper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:24 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? > > > > > > I still don't understand? > > > > > > IIRC you cannot create a STEAM Account (supposedly) unless you have a > > > legitamate install of the game, which you can't do without a valid CD > > > key, or that is how it used to work. > > > > > > Oh well > > > > > > Goodbye Valve & STEAM I guess > > > > > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:12:40 -0500, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It seems everyone thinks a STEAMID is linked to a CD-KEY. > > > > > > > > It's not. > > > > > > > > The STEAMID is assigned when you make the account, for example, I have > > > an > > > > account I never put a CD-KEY on until recently, and my STEAMID is around > > > > 1000. > > > > > > > > They then just use an exploit to make the games available to them by > > > > screwing with one of the cache files. > > > > > > > > Solution: Check CD-KEY that's tied to the game when they try to launch > > > the > > > > game, and DO NOT cache it, it worked like that with WON when trying to > > > > connect to a multiplayer game, why can't it work like that in steam? > > > > > > > > > > > > - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Darren J. Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:11 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? > > > > > > > > > > Wow, so much for the clear use of reality-based sarcasm. Did you not > > > catch > > > > > my earlier post that I have discontinued playing CS and other online > > > MPs > > > > > from Valve!?! The only reason their would be poop on my nose would be > > > > > cause > > > > > of all the sh** going on in the MP games. > > > > > > > > > > Come on Valve!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Alfred, can you get some kind of word to us about this?????? > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike > > > Bradley > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:08 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? > > > > > > > > > > Don't forget to wipe the poop off your nose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren J. > > > Mason > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:27 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? > > > > > > > > > > Everyone calm down a minute and think about the overall scope of > > > things. > > > > > Valve is known for creating at least one, if not several of the most > > > > > awesome > > > > > games we have ever played. Development has ALWAYS been plagued by > > > missed > > > > > deadlines, stolen code, and more missed deadlines. > > > > > > > > > > Should a new authentication scheme + anticheat measure been included > > > with > > > > > HL2 - of course! But this is Valve, and they are probably working on > > > > > something so revolutionary they can't possibly release it in > > > conjunction > > > > > with the game it's made for. Even if they posted about it here, we all > > > > > know > > > > > any deadline hard or soft would be extended and extended. > > > > > > > > > > We will get something later rather than sooner, it will work for the > > > most > > > > > part, and we will be happy. It the freakin waiting that has always > > > killed > > > > > us! > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maarten van > > > der > > > > > Zwaart > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:59 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:09:43 +1100, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Can somebody who is more familiar with Databases and Database > > > security > > > > > > please explain to me/us why it is difficult for Valve to secure > > > their > > > > > > STEAM_ID system? > > > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't Valve have complete control over the STEAM User and STEAM_ID > > > > > database? > > > > > > > > > > Yes they do. > > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't Valve know which STEAM_ID's belong to which STEAM Users? > > > > > > > > > > They do know. > > > > > > > > > > > Don't Valve know whether a STEAM Account has been created > > > legitimately > > > > > > on their STEAM User database or not? > > > > > > > > > > All accounts are created legitimately. > > > > > > > > > > > Can't Valve verify that people in a server are using STEAM_ID's that > > > > > > were created legitimately and belong to the STEAM User they purport > > > to > > > > > > be? > > > > > > > > > > They are using legitimate steam id's, that belong to legitimate steam > > > > > accounts. > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that the game server and/or authentication server does > > > not > > > > > check if the user owns the game he is playing. This probably needs big > > > > > changes in the way the clients obtain authentication data that is sent > > > to > > > > > the game server. This can be a lot of work, as changes are probably > > > needed > > > > > on clients, game servers and steam servers. Obviously these changes > > > need > > > > > to > > > > > be made at the same time, as most likely this changes the > > > communication > > > > > protocols used, which is also a lot of work. > > > > > > > > > > Developing a new authentication scheme is not an easy task, but I'm > > > sure > > > > > they're working on it. We'll just have to wait. > > > > > > > > > > Maarten > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > > > > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > > > > A: Top-posting. > > > > > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- > Marcelo de Paula Bezerra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
