You can't Blame steambans for non-steam. You can only Blame Valve for allowing this to happen. non-steam should of been Fixed the moment it came out not a year later.
----- Original Message ----- From: "StealthMode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: RE: [SPAM] [hlds] VAC2 - end of cheating?
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I thought I kicked this horse enough last august. Guess I didn't.
Ok, steambans.con (Notice the con) is not legitimate. People are falsely banned through it all the time.
Example:
Hacker a goes on a server with "nosteam" hacks. He gets legitimate player A's steamed in his generator. Legitimate player A happens to play on steambans.con servers. Well the hacker is in pub A (steambans monitored). He is walling, speeding, aiming, no recoil, whatever..a demo is made, a screenshot is captured, a condump is done. All with the legitimate persons id being used. Admin A submits this "evidence" to steambans (condump, ss, and demo). It is reviewed, and hackers id is banned on all steambans.con servers. Well, legitimate person A can no longer play on these servers.
This is a true story and it happens all the time. I brought this to the attention of steambans staff last year when the nosteam hack had first risen its ugly head. They chose to plead not guilty and deny all charges. And continue to do so till this day.
I would say to test this yourself, however I would not want to see you get banned by vac2 for having nosteam. So please do not attempt to replicate this. It was replicated last year by a clever group of testers. And some 15 steamids that are not in use were banned by steambans.
For this reason alone, I would never trust a steambans.con ban. And for this reason I would never trust there staff.
" There exists no way to falsely ban someone using our system. "
My .02
-StealthMode
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