eh all software developers do this tooo many people to contact most the time
look at microsoft they screw people over on a daily basis
----- Original Message -----
From: "PiTaGoRaS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 3:09 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update


I will never understand why Valve make this this kind of "fixes" that broke something else without any warning. Is it so dificult to contact with the Mani/AMX plugin devs, for example, some days before relase so they are able to update their code and everybody is happy?

... really tired of this.

Alfred Reynolds escribi� (Fri, 20 May 2005 00:49:04 -0700):
They are using an undocumented hack to display those menus, this
update removes the hack and so they can no longer use it (because
the last subsystem that was using it, radio menus, has finally been
fixed to be client side). They have a plugin API to display
messages to users and get feedback, they should use that.

- Alfred

----Original Message----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K2 Sent:
Friday, May 20, 2005 12:43 AM To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update

Thx Alfred for staying on top of this and offering a roll-back.
Looking forward to the fix.

Something else tho that I believe needs to be addressed. The Mani
plugin as well as Beetles plugin no longer work as intended - the
AMX-style menus no longer function. A quote from Beetle: 'valve
stopped any commands from the menus being sent to the server... I
have no idea of any way to do it now..'

Was this intentional or part of the problem with the new binary?

- K2

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred
Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:35 PM To:
[email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/
new update

I am going to do an update soon that will roll the binary back
(but keep the new de_inferno, it had a couple valuable fixes perf
wise). The de_inferno update made the whole update mandatory.

- Alfred

----Original Message----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon
Garner Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:26 PM To:
[email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] server crashes w/
new update

On 20/05/2005 3:47 p.m., Alfred Reynolds wrote:
I have had a couple reports of this happening on de_port.
Does anyone get it on any other Valve maps? (not third party
ones).

- Alfred


Seems to be happening on all maps.

Save us Alfred, teh servers are dyiinng!

On a related note, why was this a required update anyway? I
wasn't even going to bother updating as I hadn't had any
trouble with the two issues it was fixing, but unfortunately I
was forced to. :(

-Simon

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