Thanks guys, we will check it out.

- Alfred

----Original Message----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent:
Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:02 PM To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] rate toggle

> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Alfred  Online, if
> people drop their rates low cl_cmdrate, cl_updaterate, rate etc  They
> get a really low consistent scoreboard ping (Although I have to say
> that it is not necessarily always the case that a low scoreboard ping
> = low rates) See pic here:
> http://whisper.ausgamers.com/pictures/sourcepings/de_dust_pcg0003.jpg
>  BUT, they (the players with extremely low rates) are extremely
>  choppy on other peoples screens, making them very difficult aim at
>  and even harder to hit  It would be good if sv_minrate and
> sv_minupdaterate enforced the equivalent client side miniums  So an
> sv_minrate of 3000 would mean a client could could not set their rate
> setting lower than 3000 and sv_minupdaterate = 30 meant that clients
> cl_cmdrate and cl_updaterates also could not be lower than 30
> regardless of whatever setting the client may try to have, either by
> exec'ing a config, manually typing in the commands or using some sort
> of alias that tries to by-pass it. Does that make sense and help ?
> Cheers
>
>  On 7/22/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Could I have a synopsis of the problems you are seeing please.
> >
> > - Alfred
> >
> > ----Original Message----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K2 Sent:
> > Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:39 AM To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [hlds] rate toggle
> >
> > > I've been getting my fair share of cl_cmdrate exploiters as well,
> > > using the Mani admin plugin to check up on suspected exploiters
> > > has been a big help. I haven't seen any undue impact on server
> > > performance due to clients using a cmdrate that low... if
> > > anything, you'd think it'd actually help (client not requesting
> > > as much data from the server per tick).
> > >
> > > Suggestion - Valve should set a minimum/maximum range on
> > > cl_cmdrate and other cvars; there's no good reason that I can
> > > think of for the client to drop their cl_cmdrate setting below
> > > default (30).
> > >
> > > Whatcha think Alfred, can Valve lock down or set a min/max range
> > > on some of these settings we're discussing here?
> > >
> > > - K2
> > > http://www.hardfought.org
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris K
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:22 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] rate toggle
> > >
> > > I get 'em every day with the 5 pings. I use Mani and just toggle
> > > cmdrate back to 30. I don't know about stopping people from EVER
> > > toggling, doubt you can do that.
> > >
> > > Since you brought up rates, I have been wanting to ask. Does
> > > "cl_cmdrate 0" on a client really impact server performance? I
> > > would love to hear any good arguments for or against. I cannot
> > > seem to find any good info in the forums.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] is there any
> > > > way to stop people from rate toggling , kid had a 1 ping in my
> > > > server last night.
> > >
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