This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Daniel read thisTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:10 AM Subject: [hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4058 - 11 msgs
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IVE GOT LIKE > 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!! > > On 10/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Send hlds mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of hlds digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: CS:S Admins, a call to arms! (sprout) >> 2. RE: CS:S Admins, a call to arms! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >> 3. Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Ian mu) >> 4. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Tyler Cook) >> 5. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Ian mu) >> 6. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Tyler Cook) >> 7. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >> 8. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Ian mu) >> 9. Bots causing memory read errors (Shane Robinett) >> 10. Re: Bots causing memory read errors (David Harrison) >> 11. Re: Bots causing memory read errors (Hackmett) >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 1 >> From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms! >> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 12:35:43 -0500 >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> to all who insult this. >> >> I personally wouldn't let them be admin on my servers I emailed zach and >> let >> him know that but I figured it would be a good idea to setup a global ban >> list by this for hackers. And emailed him that. He agreed and we are now >> going to be doing that. I run 3 servers with a co owners running 2 more. I >> dare not allow people that much power on them without me knowing. But at >> the same time I would like to setup a global ban system so that there is >> less need for admins 24/7 and more communication between the hosting >> groups. >> I have setup a ftp site where people can upload their banlists I am >> willing >> to help cordinate this. If interested xfire or aim me at sprout1 for xfire >> sprout1142 for aim. or email me back at my own email address not here and >> if you have to flame me go for it feel free but do it to my personal >> address >> not this cause this its just gay to flame people [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks >> for >> reading this if you are this far >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "[GS]BeNt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 1:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms! >> >> >> > Well nothing wrong with it I guess if you have a good way to moderate >> the >> > way its working.And a good close monitor on admin abuse/complaints. >> > >> > BUT...... >> > >> > "you can apply to have your server host us, or apply to become a league >> > admin." >> > >> > So you mean to tell me if you supply a server you are not automatically >> an >> > admin in every server in the community?Hummm.Kinda defeats the >> > purpose.Even >> > though I wouldn't let anyone I don't know run my servers for me I do >> think >> > with proper planning ect,this idea has merit.The only downside I see is >> > when >> > alot of people start abusing,following people from server to server >> simply >> > because they do not like them or dumb admins.With 10-20 servers I see it >> > working.But from 50-100 I think it would fall apart.But time will tell >> and >> > once it gets up and rolling an has been up for a year or so I'll make a >> > decision then. >> > >> > BeNt >> > http://www.gorillazsouth.com >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Zachary Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> >> The LoA has a forum. >> >> >> >> http://cssadmins.jsyte.com >> >> >> >> even if you do not support this movement, I don't believe that the HLDS >> >> mailing board is the proper place to argue, take up any issues with our >> >> staff there. If you do support the movement, you can apply to have your >> >> server host us, or apply to become a league admin. >> >> >> >> Thanks to all who helped, >> >> Zack Doherty >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:05:49 -0700 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms! >> To: [email protected] >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> we tried a global ban list before. >> >> the resulting mess was immediate. >> >> every ass bite clan with a grudge against some other ass bite clan >> entered the "enemy" steam id's in the "global ban list". >> >> It will not work. ever. >> >> the cheat authors get some sort of perverted sexual satisfaction out of >> pissing off thousands of people. >> >> they will never stop until they are dead or freaking finally grow up. >> >> (please do kill cheat authors if you find them! better you get the chair >> than me...) >> >> If you can not handle the cheat users then make your servers private. >> Possibly subscription based. >> >> otherwise just get out of the business and do something else. >> >> take for instance "even balance" (punkbuster). >> >> They convinced the stupid suits at the major commercial game companies >> they had the solution to cheats. >> >> they prepare a release of pb for when the game is released. >> >> then they move to the next project and forget the last one. >> >> It takes the cheat authors about 10 minutes to have a new version out >> undetectable by pb. >> >> since pb is never, ever, updated after the first release with a new game >> the new cheats are never detected. >> >> sort of like how as long as there are people who buy virus prevention >> software then the virus software companies will keep creating new >> viruses. virus companies like norton/symantic, etc. >> >> BIG MONEY >> >> it is just as crappy and dishonest as politics. >> >> It is not worth your stress and frustration. >> >> better to grow up and walk away. >> >> you want the rush from combat? get into scenario paintball. >> >> check this vid: >> http://www.specialopspaintball.com/movies/battleofbower2.mov >> >> i love my new Mark 30 landmine: >> http://www.specialopspaintball.com/shop/prodimages/6110002a.jpg >> >> and i love my BT16 Tactical Marker: >> http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/5023680/BT16-Tactical.jpg >> >> It's a real rush folks. The D-Day event next year should draw over 4,000 >> players. >> >> Check waynes-world.com <http://waynes-world.com> for some upcoming events. >> >> Check http://www.ragtopvideo.com/wwvideos/wwvideos.html for vids and >> pics of past events. >> >> puts video games to shame. >> >> Hopefully this useless and hopeless thread will finally be put to sleep >> as well. >> >> L8R heroes! >> >> >> > -------- Original Message -------- >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms! >> > From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Date: Sun, October 02, 2005 10:35 am >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > >> > to all who insult this. >> >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 22:20:14 +0100 >> From: Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with specifying the >> steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't >> enable >> since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want to >> confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? >> Thanks, Ian >> -- >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:12:37 -0400 >> From: Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> nevar!!! muahahaha! >> >> On 10/2/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > -- >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with specifying >> the >> > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't >> > enable >> > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want to >> > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? >> > Thanks, Ian >> > -- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> -- >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:52:30 +0100 >> From: Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> Lol, wouldn't surprise me. Anyone know any workarounds? Even seems to take >> the default IP for steam not the gameserver IP, so at the moment trying to >> think of coding a wrapper to force it onto a different IP, but thats just >> plain messy and don't really have the time. >> Anyone hit this issue and found a workaround since the last update? >> >> On 10/2/05, Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > -- >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > nevar!!! muahahaha! >> > >> > On 10/2/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > -- >> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with specifying >> > the >> > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't >> > > enable >> > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want to >> > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? >> > > Thanks, Ian >> > > -- >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > >> > -- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> -- >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 19:40:13 -0400 >> From: Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> isnt there a commap like.. >> +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:yyyy >> >> On 10/2/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > -- >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > Lol, wouldn't surprise me. Anyone know any workarounds? Even seems to >> take >> > the default IP for steam not the gameserver IP, so at the moment trying >> to >> > think of coding a wrapper to force it onto a different IP, but thats >> just >> > plain messy and don't really have the time. >> > Anyone hit this issue and found a workaround since the last update? >> > >> > On 10/2/05, Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > -- >> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > > nevar!!! muahahaha! >> > > >> > > On 10/2/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with >> specifying >> > > the >> > > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't >> > > > enable >> > > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want >> to >> > > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? >> > > > Thanks, Ian >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > >> > -- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> -- >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 7 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? >> Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:45:01 +0000 >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> Use -port instead. The old sport or steamport thing isnt working according >> to others in this list last week. >> >> -Ozz >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> >> > -- >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with specifying >> the >> > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't >> enable >> > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want to >> > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? >> > Thanks, Ian >> > -- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please >> > visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> -- >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 01:14:33 +0100 >> From: Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> -port & -ip sets the gameserver port/ip, there's no issue with that, they >> work fine. We already use -port & -ip. >> This is different though, and its the steamport and is effectively >> separate >> which prevents steam relating access working like vac (maybe master >> servers >> lists? Haven't tested that yet). Hence why the -steamport was originally >> added, otherwise you get the error it can't contact the steam servers if >> the >> ports are already used by other steam games (and no way to change them). >> It >> also looks like there's port range limit where you can only have a certain >> amount of servers contacting steam unless you are able to specify >> -steamport >> xxxxx. >> The steam ports it uses aren't offset to the gameserver port or anything >> like that, so can't figure any way around it. >> Thanks for the replies though. >> >> >> On 10/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > -- >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > Use -port instead. The old sport or steamport thing isnt working >> according >> > to others in this list last week. >> > >> > -Ozz >> > >> > -------------- Original message -------------- >> > >> > > -- >> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with specifying >> > the >> > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't >> > enable >> > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want to >> > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? >> > > Thanks, Ian >> > > -- >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please >> > > visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > -- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> -- >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:21:19 -0400 >> From: "Shane Robinett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> >> We've been chasing down a crash problem since the last upgrades to >> SRCDS.exe. We are experiencing the same 'could not read memory' errors >> that many others have reported. Usually these errors were reported to be >> associated with BEETLE and MANI. >> >> We upgraded MANI (we don't use BEETLE) and continued to have the >> problem. It appeared to be related to bots on the system. >> >> - >> >> Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with no bots. --- 4 crashes >> reported in 48 hours (normal). >> >> Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with bots. --- 74 crashes >> reported in 48 hours. - (bad) >> >> Reinstalled from scratch 10 SOURCE servers with bots and MANI. -- 24 >> crashes reported in 48 hours. On par with just BOTS only. >> >> System operating on dual XEON 2.6/2.8/3.0 GHZ machines all running >> Windows2003. >> >> Anyone else experiencing this problem to this degree? >> >> - >> Shane >> PHXX.NET <http://PHXX.NET> >> >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 10 >> From: "David Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors >> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:36:47 +1000 >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> We have been getting these crashes for ages. We get them in vanilla >> SRCDS and with Mani - we don't run bots. We get probably between 4 and >> 10 crashes a day. >> >> I believe one of our guys has forwarded some of the crash dumps to >> Alfred. >> >> -- david >> >> >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: "Shane Robinett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:21 AM >> Subject: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors >> >> > We've been chasing down a crash problem since the last upgrades to >> > SRCDS.exe. We are experiencing the same 'could not read memory' >> > errors >> > that many others have reported. Usually these errors were reported to >> > be >> > associated with BEETLE and MANI. >> > >> > We upgraded MANI (we don't use BEETLE) and continued to have the >> > problem. It appeared to be related to bots on the system. >> > >> > - >> > >> > Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with no bots. --- 4 crashes >> > reported in 48 hours (normal). >> > >> > Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with bots. --- 74 crashes >> > reported in 48 hours. - (bad) >> > >> > Reinstalled from scratch 10 SOURCE servers with bots and MANI. -- 24 >> > crashes reported in 48 hours. On par with just BOTS only. >> > >> > System operating on dual XEON 2.6/2.8/3.0 GHZ machines all running >> > Windows2003. >> > >> > Anyone else experiencing this problem to this degree? >> > >> > - >> > Shane >> > PHXX.NET <http://PHXX.NET> >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 02:47:41 +0200 (CEST) >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors >> From: "Hackmett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> Hi, >> >> same problem here, at least with Win 2003 it crashes sometimes when a bot >> is leaving the game. Turning Beetle off has no effect on that. Last log >> entries were always the weapon-stats of a bot. >> The Linux editions seams to run without crashing. >> I thought this is a known bug, in Beetle's forum I read that others have >> the same problem. >> >> > We have been getting these crashes for ages. We get them in vanilla >> > SRCDS and with Mani - we don't run bots. We get probably between 4 and >> > 10 crashes a day. >> > >> > I believe one of our guys has forwarded some of the crash dumps to >> > Alfred. >> > >> > -- david >> > >> > >> > ---- Original Message ---- >> > From: "Shane Robinett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:21 AM >> > Subject: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors >> > >> >> We've been chasing down a crash problem since the last upgrades to >> >> SRCDS.exe. We are experiencing the same 'could not read memory' >> >> errors >> >> that many others have reported. Usually these errors were reported to >> >> be >> >> associated with BEETLE and MANI. >> >> >> >> We upgraded MANI (we don't use BEETLE) and continued to have the >> >> problem. It appeared to be related to bots on the system. >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> >> Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with no bots. --- 4 crashes >> >> reported in 48 hours (normal). >> >> >> >> Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with bots. --- 74 crashes >> >> reported in 48 hours. - (bad) >> >> >> >> Reinstalled from scratch 10 SOURCE servers with bots and MANI. -- 24 >> >> crashes reported in 48 hours. On par with just BOTS only. >> >> >> >> System operating on dual XEON 2.6/2.8/3.0 GHZ machines all running >> >> Windows2003. >> >> >> >> Anyone else experiencing this problem to this degree? >> >> >> >> - >> >> Shane >> >> PHXX.NET <http://PHXX.NET> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> archives, please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> greetz >> >> [Team America] Hackmett >> >> Freedom is not free >> >> www.tawp.de <http://www.tawp.de> >> >> >> >> >> --__--__-- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> End of hlds Digest >> > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
