Exactly my point, nothing is in the logs and the server isn't crashed so their's no dump. The bottom line is it's impossible for us to help you fix what's broken. It takes giving a damn enough to LOOK to find the answer. I'd rather you just hand AC off to somebody else. Your update yesterday clearly shows what Valve is/is-not capable of doing well. VAC/VAC2 is simply the most important thing about your game and for it to be completely ignored is RIDICULOUS! How about fixing SourceTV while you're at it so leagues can promo your game and make it more popular for the hackers you can't stop. Hey, how about release an update you can handle, hey, how about don't have your guys wipe out every Linux server on planet earth on the Xmas holiday. Hey, IMPRESS us for a change huh!?
Rayne P.S. Obviously we've lost confidence in Valve and your patronizing comments like "when it's done" has gone too far. Why not just close the list. It's not like it make a difference to anything anymore. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Affordablegameservers.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Servers losing VAC, gettin beyond a joke... I see this from time to time. All my boxes are win32 have 1 nic with multiple ips bound to it (one server per ip) Generally i see it upon mass restarting. Every few days i batch restart my servers to get back the memory they leak. Although it appears on the weekends its worse. Sometimes just restarting a single server in the middle of the day requires multiple restarts to get it to go vac. A restart fixes the problem generally but people are unwilling to do so sometimes they think it should just work. I was hoping for some type of retry say 3 retries with a longer timeout period perhaps? It just generally seems like the server it tries to talk to doesnt answer in time for whatever reason. The server does not create any dump file, all you get is a console saying it couldnt connect and vac is disabled. If there is a debug mode or anything I can use to gather more information for you please let me know the procedure and I will make sure to use it the next time i see it happening during the day. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Servers losing VAC, gettin beyond a joke... As you experience the problem any chance you could answer my questions to help me track this down? - Alfred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Come on, how can you not reproduce a server losing VAC? Run a few > servers > for a while, ya know, the thing you guys code in there. We run lots > of both > HLDS and SCRDS servers and all of them will lose VAC from time to > time. Both > public servers, private servers and servers we run just for the world > to > play on. All servers use a unique port as well as steam port. It's > intermittent and always has been. Running a little internal LAN > server won't > show you the effects of anything really. You guys need to run publicly > accessible servers and you'll clearly see this issue yourselves. I've > personally seen it happen on RHE3, Debian (Stable), Win2kServer, > Win2k3Server and Win2k3Ent.X64 server. There is no rhyme or reason to > it. It obviously is lack of communication between the game servers > and the VAC > servers. Whether that be from line saturation or just poor network > connectivity of the VAC servers is unclear but it DOES happen. Daily > to most > of us here. I just cannot believe you put ANY solid effort into > reproducing > our environment and fail to see one of those servers insecure. I just > checked our list and found two from looking about 2 hours ago. If you > have something I should look for in logs then by all means give us > the phrase to > search for. But don't assume we'll accept "we can't reproduce it" and > call > the case closed. I'll be HAPPY to help run this useless AC on our > servers > out of lack of options since Valve is too nuts about coding to allow > somebody that gives a damn to do a better job of it. > > Rayne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred > Reynolds > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Servers losing VAC, gettin beyond a joke... > > I cannot reproduce this problem (nor am I sure exactly what the > problem > is, log excerpts and minidumps would be useful). How do you know you > are "losing VAC"? How do you know that a restart doesn't fix the > problem (do > you wait a little for login sequence to complete?) What are the > configurations of the machines with the problem? Do you have other > machines that do not exhibit the problem? > > - Alfred > > Saint K. wrote: >> Currently we have to reset our servers multiple times a day because >> they are losing VAC. >> Often a server needs 2 or 3 resets to get VAC back active. >> We have 2 choices... Reboot a filled server (Looking bad vs ur >> players if your constantly resetting servers), or leave server >> unsecured as result you attracks 10 cheaters an hour on a full >> server. >> >> We need VAC fixed asap as this is getting out of controle!! >> >> Saint K. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
