You guys can't truely belive that Valve bases all performance on a single video test?
There are so many varibales (Hardware, other software demands on your hardware, networking), sure I can get a 30 second test on just about any system to put out 60+ FPS (after shuting down just about every service that is not required), but you have to look past the video test. When you playing on internet based servers your FPS are effected by many factors. For instance your ISP method of tranfer from you to the internet (wireless or wired, T1,DSL or Cable). The distance between players in a given server, when the server has to wait for data before it can genrate the next frame so does your client. So think about, most of the Lag (or drop in FPS) in the game is caused by internet by products, slow routers, busy routers and your local connect setup in the first place. Then muplti that by the number of players in the server (and lets not forget they have the same changle as you do getting to a remote server) and boom you have uncontrolable factors that cause poor output in the game. So until the world is running on door to door fiber networks I really don't see any way Valve can fix a connection based problem. Dustin
From: "Dan Stevens (IAmAI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Whining or true? Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:13:45 +0000 > I think Valve is not sure whether the complaints are real or are from > whiners. For example: On the client side the "video test" in CS:S gave > me an average FPS of 110, and that data was sent to Valve. But in the > real world my system would be unplayable at times. The FPS would drop > when all the players were together fighting. So some would complain to > Valve about the FPS but Valve had it's data (from the "video test") > telling them everyone was getting decent FPS'. Does anyone think that it might be possible to, via a mod, create a custom video test and hack it so sends frame rate report as if it had come the official video test. If everyone then used the custom video test, Valve may get a more 'accurate' survey of performance. I'm sending this question to coders list, as I'd guess they'd be more likely to know the answer. I hope that doesn't cause any technical inconveniences. On 19/02/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I think you are right, I mean the general opinion does matter and should be > considered by the ever churning valve machine but when it all comes down to > it the fact is your dog is ugly. :) > > > > > On 2/18/06, DT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think Valve is not sure whether the complaints are real or are from > > whiners. For example: On the client side the "video test" in CS:S gave > > me an average FPS of 110, and that data was sent to Valve. But in the > > real world my system would be unplayable at times. The FPS would drop > > when all the players were together fighting. So some would complain to > > Valve about the FPS but Valve had it's data (from the "video test") > > telling them everyone was getting decent FPS'. Also, I'm sure there was > > a lot of hackers crying to Valve saying they were just good players and > > got banned because of their skill. So Valve took the opinion that there > > was not that many hacks out there and all complaining were just > > whiners. I think that some of the info that Valve got was not real > > world experiences and when we complain that are not sure if it's legit > > or Whining. So, I would suggest that when you see an e-mail that you > > have experienced then to let them know. I understand how frustrating it > > can be. I am personally extremely frustrated. So, now I beat my dog. > > It's okay cause he's ugly and I think he likes it. ;) > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 2/17/2006 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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