-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] After getting a call from their Washington police department for a "threatening communications in attempting to get their home addresses" this subject is dropped. The matter isn't over but it is here. Good luck with Valve's games guys. I'll miss some of you and miss the enviorment this community USED to be when the great THWACK stick was the solution to any problems. When 6 months between an update was a GOOD thing. Have we fallen so far that if the local Dunkin Dohnuts or McDonald's closed down that we wouldn't have breakfast? Pull out a dusty skillet and fix your family a good HOME cooked meal this week even if it's as simple as a stack of French Toast.
In final closing, and then I'll drop this google account to the net gods... Your illusion of "freedom" on the internet is soon coming to an end. It starts with charging for email deliveries, online sales tax, and propietary "rules"/EULAs that allow anyone to do anything and if you don't agree then piss off. If I bought a car and sold it to a neighbor does that break a EULA with the dealership I bought it at? If I state I'm sick of Valve's bullshit and that my account is "up for grabs" is that truely a violation of their EULA? Whatever your position is on the subject who would you turn to for help in what you "think" your "rights" are? There is no controlling body covering the internet in our day an age. If you're defrauded finacially then generally the financial institutions will protect you but beyond that you're a babe in the woods for every purchase cuz there's nobody to complain to or seek mediation from. Bottom line is I stood up on my soapbox, as I'm known to do, for what I feel is right/wrong. Us old carpenters don't have the eloquent linguistic skills of the world of "suits" but our taxes help them keep theirs. Software has no guarantee, if you piss of one of the militia they shut you off and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. So will my complaints resolve anything in this list? Of course not. Would my complaints be better addressed in another area? Doubt it. There was no actions on my account other than what I've said from my soapbox here that got that ID "disabled". Kind of reminds me of an old saying. *Don't bite the hand that feeds you* My voice said that what I was being fed was bullshit and their responses to our questions and inquiries having responses of "when it's ready" after a year of marketing bullshit. It's the pompus world of guys that think they can do what they want, when they want, to who they want and there's nothing you can do about it. Think about the last time some little kid not even in high school told you, "that was my kill mother fucker!" Everybody thinks they are 10-foot tall and bullet proof online. Society conforms to it's environment. Verbal online abuse, hackers, crackers, spam, your rich relative died and left you $25M emails.....it's the environment we live in. This company bought the rights to Sierra's creation and have slowly but surely brought it to it's ultimate demise. There once was a day when these games were THE game to play. Now it's little Russia with a building full of map makers and guys coding eye-candy into the game with no thought to it's effects to servers or clients. It's all about continuing the NEW content that allows them something to put in a marketing ad. Your problems, my problems, doesn't matter. Their morgage will still get paid and you're left with no choices. I brought my emotions online when they should've stayed on my side of the keyboard when I spoke my mind. Surely don't want a little warrant from a no-name town in Washington to issue a misdemeanor charge that is non-extraditable from the other side of the country just cuz I want to send the pompus little mouth-piece for a company in it's spirally death-throws a nice little Xmas card. The way I see it, the gaming world had a good run with HL1/mods. The world has moved on and now so shall I. Fair well to those of you I'll miss. Wise up to those you who are jaded in a world of smoke, mirrors and EULAs. And "when it's done" for me comes today with this community to no fault of the community itself. You WILL be missed for both the good times and the bad over the years. Never forgotten but remembered as an extremely intellegent group of guys collaborating on a common subject. Most of this list for me over the years wasn't it's direct attachment to the game I loved but more of enjoying the community that surrounded me. The ENVIRONMENT kept me here long after the "fad" of the software had passed. Goodbye gentlemen, and ladies, Ray S. / "Rayne" / "RayneOfDeath" / RaynServ On 3/29/06, Ben Elvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > True. They must've been able to positively identify that he was the > account > owner. The idea that it was disabled because of opinions that were posted > on this list is as stupid as offering your account for sale through a > valve > monitored medium ;) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook > Sent: 29 March 2006 03:37 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account > > Think about it - some jerk on my server irritates me. I post all over the > Internet that I'm offering his account for sale. Valve disables his > account. > > Better yet, I don't like my cousin , so since he is my cousin I know his > name, address, and phone number. I advertise that I have his account for > sale, posting his name, address, and phone number. Valve sees this and > disables his account. > > Bad practice. Very bad practice. Leads to lawsuits. I would like to think > that they are smart enough not to disable an account without exercising > due > diligence to ensure they are legitimately disableing the account. BTW, One > day someone is going to launch a class action lawsuit against Valve for > disabled accounts (back in the early days of VAC when false bans were > common, I'm surprised this did not happen). When it does, Valve will throw > a > lot of money at their attack lawyers and win the case, but I digress. > > He got his account disabled because he or his kids loaded up a cheat, he > tried to sell it in such a manner that Valve was able to positively > identify > that it was his account he was selling, or he otherwise did something > stupid > enough to get his account disabled. He didn't get it disabled for anything > he posted to this list. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:28 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds] Disabled Account > > > > They disabled his account because he offered it for sale. > > > > End of. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Harrison > > Sent: 29 March 2006 00:20 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account > > > > Firstly, noone here cares. > > > > Secondly, I think Valve have better things to do that disable the > > accounts of every person that says something bad about them. They'd run > > out of time to do other useful things like go to the bathroom, eat, etc. > > > > Thirdly, maybe you should try going through the official support process > > to get an actual reason before filling up a public mailing list with > > your childish diatribe. > > > > Please stop posting here until you have some evidence of your claims - > > you're just making it harder for people to actually use this list. > > > > Thanks, > > -- david > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > > From: "RaynServ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account > > > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> I crown the "JADED" award to you. If you'd been here for more than 6 > >> months you'd know EXACTLY what complained about originally. Instead > >> you flame for the sake of flaming. Hope your kind don't pro-create > >> wherever you're from. > >> > >> Rayne > >> > >> > >> > >> On 3/28/06, Hell Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thank god. Good bye. Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. > >>> > >>> RaynServ wrote: > >>>> -- > >>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >>>> wow....I think the word I'm looking for here is "jaded". > >>>> > >>>> Nothing else to say, I've said it all and I'm done....do with the > >>>> information as you will. > >>>> > >>>> Rayne > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 3/28/06, DL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> -- > >>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >>>>> Where the hell does it say ANYTHING about cheating??? > >>>>> You're so gungho about it being due to cheating that you must have > >>>>> used them > >>>>> Why else would you think it is about cheats? > >>>>> > >>>>> -------Original Message------- > >>>>> > >>>>> From: RaynServ > >>>>> Date: 03/28/06 16:17:04 > >>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >>>>> Then tell me genius. Explain this > >>>>> www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG. That message isn't for > >>>>> downloading one of the hundreds of hacks for this game. It's an > >>>>> administrative "lock" on the account with no specific reason and/or > >>>>> notification. But hey, it's their shit and if they want to kill it > >>>>> then let > >>>>> it die I guess. But the cheap shit they pulled on me for voicing my > >>>>> ACCURATE > >>>>> opinions on this list of theirs is the ONLY possible explanation. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rayne > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 3/28/06, DL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >>>>>> They don't disable for opinions! Get it through your thick skull. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -------Original Message------- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: RaynServ > >>>>>> Date: 03/28/06 16:08:40 > >>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >>>>>> www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG > >>>>>> > >>>>>> With NEVER touching this game other than playing with clients for > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> > >>>>> last > >>>>> > >>>>>> year or so and running a clan prior to that the ONLY reason it > >>>>>> could've been > >>>>>> disabled would be from my comments on their list. Anybody getting > >>>>>> > >>>>> feelings > >>>>> > >>>>>> of "little Russia" here? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rayne > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/28/06, [GS]-BeNt- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Please tell me this isn't true....... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: "RaynServ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Note to the community: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> DON'T speak out about Valve or their fucked up practices with > >>>>>>>> us as > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> their > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> labrats. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> They "disabled" my STEAM account for voicing their consistently > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> degrading > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> quality since they've taken over the game. Every major gaming > >>>>>>>> site > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> on > >>>>> > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> internet says it all in full detail but DON'T say it here or > >>>>>>>> they'll "disable" your account just like they did mine. I've > >>>>>>>> been reading a > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> few > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> larger gaming community sites today and it seems that how you > >>>>>>>> REALLY > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> feel > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> not unique but DON'T voice it here! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Say goodbye to STEAM_0:1:1111 > >>>>>>>> HL1 > >>>>>>>> CS1.6 > >>>>>>>> CSS > >>>>>>>> DODS > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks Valve...you fucking PUSSIES!!! How about somebody > >>>>>>>> begrudged > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> in > >>>>> > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> company shoot me the home address of Alfred Reynolds. All > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> information > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> related to where these punks actually LIVE would be appreciated > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> well > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> rewarded. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (Since 1999 in HL/Valve game but no more) > >>>>>>>> Rayne > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> [ 07.gif of type image/gif deleted ] > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> -- > >>>>> [ 07.gif of type image/gif deleted ] > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>> archives, please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- > [ smime.p7s of type application/x-pkcs7-signature deleted ] > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

