You had your chance to read the EULA and Subscriber Agreement before purchasing the software. The difference between a car and software is that you own your car. You don't own software, only a license to install and use it. When you do so, you agree to Valve's terms, which are clearly published on http://www.steampowered.com. You're obviously completely delusional, but in the future you may want to read a contract before you agree to it. Common sense would say, at least.
> -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > After getting a call from their Washington police department for a > "threatening communications in attempting to get their home addresses" > this > subject is dropped. The matter isn't over but it is here. Good luck with > Valve's games guys. I'll miss some of you and miss the enviorment this > community USED to be when the great THWACK stick was the solution to any > problems. When 6 months between an update was a GOOD thing. > Have we fallen so far that if the local Dunkin Dohnuts or McDonald's > closed > down that we wouldn't have breakfast? Pull out a dusty skillet and fix > your > family a good HOME cooked meal this week even if it's as simple as a stack > of French Toast. > > In final closing, and then I'll drop this google account to the net > gods... > > Your illusion of "freedom" on the internet is soon coming to an end. It > starts with charging for email deliveries, online sales tax, and > propietary > "rules"/EULAs that allow anyone to do anything and if you don't agree then > piss off. If I bought a car and sold it to a neighbor does that break a > EULA > with the dealership I bought it at? If I state I'm sick of Valve's > bullshit > and that my account is "up for grabs" is that truely a violation of their > EULA? Whatever your position is on the subject who would you turn to for > help in what you "think" your "rights" are? There is no controlling body > covering the internet in our day an age. If you're defrauded finacially > then > generally the financial institutions will protect you but beyond that > you're > a babe in the woods for every purchase cuz there's nobody to complain to > or > seek mediation from. Bottom line is I stood up on my soapbox, as I'm known > to do, for what I feel is right/wrong. Us old carpenters don't have the > eloquent linguistic skills of the world of "suits" but our taxes help them > keep theirs. Software has no guarantee, if you piss of one of the militia > they shut you off and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. So > will > my complaints resolve anything in this list? Of course not. Would my > complaints be better addressed in another area? Doubt it. There was no > actions on my account other than what I've said from my soapbox here that > got that ID "disabled". Kind of reminds me of an old saying. > *Don't bite the hand that feeds you* My voice said that what I was being > fed was bullshit and their responses to our questions and inquiries having > responses of "when it's ready" after a year of marketing bullshit. It's > the > pompus world of guys that think they can do what they want, when they > want, > to who they want and there's nothing you can do about it. Think about the > last time some little kid not even in high school told you, "that was my > kill mother fucker!" Everybody thinks they are 10-foot tall and bullet > proof > online. Society conforms to it's environment. Verbal online abuse, > hackers, > crackers, spam, your rich relative died and left you $25M emails.....it's > the environment we live in. > This company bought the rights to Sierra's creation and have slowly but > surely brought it to it's ultimate demise. There once was a day when these > games were THE game to play. Now it's little Russia with a building full > of > map makers and guys coding eye-candy into the game with no thought to it's > effects to servers or clients. It's all about continuing the NEW content > that allows them something to put in a marketing ad. Your problems, my > problems, doesn't matter. Their morgage will still get paid and you're > left > with no choices. > I brought my emotions online when they should've stayed on my side of the > keyboard when I spoke my mind. Surely don't want a little warrant from a > no-name town in Washington to issue a misdemeanor charge that is > non-extraditable from the other side of the country just cuz I want to > send > the pompus little mouth-piece for a company in it's spirally death-throws > a > nice little Xmas card. The way I see it, the gaming world had a good run > with HL1/mods. The world has moved on and now so shall I. > > Fair well to those of you I'll miss. Wise up to those you who are jaded in > a > world of smoke, mirrors and EULAs. And "when it's done" for me comes today > with this community to no fault of the community itself. You WILL be > missed > for both the good times and the bad over the years. Never forgotten but > remembered as an extremely intellegent group of guys collaborating on a > common subject. Most of this list for me over the years wasn't it's direct > attachment to the game I loved but more of enjoying the community that > surrounded me. The ENVIRONMENT kept me here long after the "fad" of the > software had passed. > > Goodbye gentlemen, and ladies, > > Ray S. / "Rayne" / "RayneOfDeath" / RaynServ > > > On 3/29/06, Ben Elvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> -- >> True. They must've been able to positively identify that he was the >> account >> owner. The idea that it was disabled because of opinions that were >> posted >> on this list is as stupid as offering your account for sale through a >> valve >> monitored medium ;) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook >> Sent: 29 March 2006 03:37 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account >> >> Think about it - some jerk on my server irritates me. I post all over >> the >> Internet that I'm offering his account for sale. Valve disables his >> account. >> >> Better yet, I don't like my cousin , so since he is my cousin I know his >> name, address, and phone number. I advertise that I have his account for >> sale, posting his name, address, and phone number. Valve sees this and >> disables his account. >> >> Bad practice. Very bad practice. Leads to lawsuits. I would like to >> think >> that they are smart enough not to disable an account without exercising >> due >> diligence to ensure they are legitimately disableing the account. BTW, >> One >> day someone is going to launch a class action lawsuit against Valve for >> disabled accounts (back in the early days of VAC when false bans were >> common, I'm surprised this did not happen). When it does, Valve will >> throw >> a >> lot of money at their attack lawyers and win the case, but I digress. >> >> He got his account disabled because he or his kids loaded up a cheat, he >> tried to sell it in such a manner that Valve was able to positively >> identify >> that it was his account he was selling, or he otherwise did something >> stupid >> enough to get his account disabled. He didn't get it disabled for >> anything >> he posted to this list. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:28 PM >> Subject: RE: [hlds] Disabled Account >> >> >> > They disabled his account because he offered it for sale. >> > >> > End of. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Harrison >> > Sent: 29 March 2006 00:20 >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account >> > >> > Firstly, noone here cares. >> > >> > Secondly, I think Valve have better things to do that disable the >> > accounts of every person that says something bad about them. They'd >> run >> > out of time to do other useful things like go to the bathroom, eat, >> etc. >> > >> > Thirdly, maybe you should try going through the official support >> process >> > to get an actual reason before filling up a public mailing list with >> > your childish diatribe. >> > >> > Please stop posting here until you have some evidence of your claims - >> > you're just making it harder for people to actually use this list. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > -- david >> > >> > ---- Original Message ---- >> > From: "RaynServ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:52 AM >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account >> > >> >> -- >> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> >> I crown the "JADED" award to you. If you'd been here for more than 6 >> >> months you'd know EXACTLY what complained about originally. Instead >> >> you flame for the sake of flaming. Hope your kind don't pro-create >> >> wherever you're from. >> >> >> >> Rayne >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/28/06, Hell Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Thank god. Good bye. Dont let the door hit your ass on the way >> out. >> >>> >> >>> RaynServ wrote: >> >>>> -- >> >>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> >>>> wow....I think the word I'm looking for here is "jaded". >> >>>> >> >>>> Nothing else to say, I've said it all and I'm done....do with the >> >>>> information as you will. >> >>>> >> >>>> Rayne >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 3/28/06, DL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> >>>>> Where the hell does it say ANYTHING about cheating??? >> >>>>> You're so gungho about it being due to cheating that you must have >> >>>>> used them >> >>>>> Why else would you think it is about cheats? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -------Original Message------- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> From: RaynServ >> >>>>> Date: 03/28/06 16:17:04 >> >>>>> To: [email protected] >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> >>>>> Then tell me genius. Explain this >> >>>>> www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG. That message isn't for >> >>>>> downloading one of the hundreds of hacks for this game. It's an >> >>>>> administrative "lock" on the account with no specific reason >> and/or >> >>>>> notification. But hey, it's their shit and if they want to kill it >> >>>>> then let >> >>>>> it die I guess. But the cheap shit they pulled on me for voicing >> my >> >>>>> ACCURATE >> >>>>> opinions on this list of theirs is the ONLY possible explanation. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Rayne >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 3/28/06, DL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> >>>>>> They don't disable for opinions! Get it through your thick skull. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -------Original Message------- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> From: RaynServ >> >>>>>> Date: 03/28/06 16:08:40 >> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> >>>>>> www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> With NEVER touching this game other than playing with clients for >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> last >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> year or so and running a clan prior to that the ONLY reason it >> >>>>>> could've been >> >>>>>> disabled would be from my comments on their list. Anybody getting >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> feelings >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> of "little Russia" here? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Rayne >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 3/28/06, [GS]-BeNt- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Please tell me this isn't true....... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>> From: "RaynServ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Note to the community: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> DON'T speak out about Valve or their fucked up practices with >> >>>>>>>> us as >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> their >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> labrats. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> They "disabled" my STEAM account for voicing their consistently >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> degrading >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> quality since they've taken over the game. Every major gaming >> >>>>>>>> site >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>> on >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> internet says it all in full detail but DON'T say it here or >> >>>>>>>> they'll "disable" your account just like they did mine. I've >> >>>>>>>> been reading a >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> few >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> larger gaming community sites today and it seems that how you >> >>>>>>>> REALLY >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> feel >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>> not unique but DON'T voice it here! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Say goodbye to STEAM_0:1:1111 >> >>>>>>>> HL1 >> >>>>>>>> CS1.6 >> >>>>>>>> CSS >> >>>>>>>> DODS >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Thanks Valve...you fucking PUSSIES!!! How about somebody >> >>>>>>>> begrudged >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>> in >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> company shoot me the home address of Alfred Reynolds. All >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>> information >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>> related to where these punks actually LIVE would be appreciated >> >>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> well >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> rewarded. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> (Since 1999 in HL/Valve game but no more) >> >>>>>>>> Rayne >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>>>>> archives, please visit: >> >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> [ 07.gif of type image/gif deleted ] >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>>>>> archives, please visit: >> >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>>>> archives, please visit: >> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> [ 07.gif of type image/gif deleted ] >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>>>> archives, please visit: >> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>>> archives, please visit: >> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >>> archives, please visit: >> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> -- >> [ smime.p7s of type application/x-pkcs7-signature deleted ] >> -- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
