Yes, I would agree with brand concept here. Players are joining and staying at our communities not because they don't have other servers to play at but because of effort and money we put into our projects. I don't think that messing up with every dedicated server on the network does make any sense but whose which are really busy and thus deliver a lot of ads to players should have some compensation.
I'm not going to hurt my community by dropping any of my servers as long as I have players on them and I suppose most of us won't do that and that is why I don't think we ever get any compensation... As for more realistic approach I would rather prefer to pay 2-3 USD per month to disable ads for myself. This is all very sad though. On 07/03/07, Rob Poe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I won't jeopardize my Steam account (which I paid well over $90 for) to run a "third party fix". However, here's my feeling on this matter. Whether or not it would or would not affect MY bandwidth as a server owner (I've run servers for years .. CS in 2000-2002, DOD 2002-2005, etc) it's still MY brand and MY server. Not MY game, but a brand. Yes, servers / communities are BRANDS. To taint MY BRAND by putting someone else's advertising in is totally objectionable. Valve needs to offer two options to the GSP's and server owners. 1. Compensation. I'd say that 10% per ad impression. or 2. The ability to disable the ads. We play games to GET AWAY from the real world. A way to "just veg out" and take away life stress. Having to mentally deal with a "Real World" encroaching on the "Virtual gaming arena" where I go to GET away from real life - makes it too much like real life. If there's going to be no choice in this matter, then I declare my Steam account to be defective, and I want a refund for all of my costs -- for Steam content and for the CD Keys I have entered.. KeepKnarzling wrote: > There's already a Client'fix' out there - but i wont post the URL here. > > Valve should pay the Serveradmin's for delivering the Ad's. > > > RMaioroff schrieb: > >> Wow. Sorry, I am a little bit behind the curve here since I don't host CS or >> CS:S. You mean to tell me that this in game advertising is forced and not >> optional? I was obviously wrong when I read the original announcement about >> it earlier. I thought it gave the server admin an opportunity to run in-game >> ads of their choice & design. But apparently this is a forced change and the >> content stream is not defined by the admin, but by Valve? OK: Are you >> fucking serious? I am sorry this is happening to the CS/CS:S community, and >> sure hope it doesn't find it's way into the other mods. We spend $1200 >> monthly on servers for pubs. An out of pocket expense without any revenue >> stream to support it. If I was then forced to run ads for someone and allow >> them to capitalize on my services which I offer for free, I'd drop the game >> vendor in a heartbeat. >> >> It was bad enough the other day when I went into one of my TFC pubs and saw >> some advertisement in the "Content Provided By:" box that listed some other >> game server host. Business is business, and Valve's product are no >> exception. They develop in order to make a profit. Valve has extreme talent >> and also the financial capability to dictate a lot of the industry trends, >> so why jump on this bandwagon? This is, in my opinion, as bad as spam. >> >> How Sad. Please someone tell me that I have it all wrong, and Valve isn't >> selling out and throwing their admins under the bus. >> >> Can anyone confirm or deny that this ad based model will or will not be in >> TF2? We plan to make a huge roll out of dozens of TF2 pubs when Valve pushes >> the final release of it, but if TF2 will have ads, I will go buy a fishing >> boat or gamble $20k on craps in Vegas instead of doing a TF2 server farm. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [GS]Admin >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:10 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? >> >> Yup I guess it's time for me and my community to move along to a different >> non-ad'ed game.This is the reason we didn't play or buy into BF2142. >> Good-bye VALVe.... >> >> BeNt >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> >>> If it can not connect to the ad server, it automatically provides you with >>> the viewing pleasure of VALVe game ads. >>> ---- "Saint K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'll give a cookie to the first one to write a tweak to block the ads. >>>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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