I totally agree with the brand concept.I also agree that as a whole
communities do good by having their admin players and projects doing good
and pleasing the community.Ads do not please the communities that are around
at all I guarentee you that.

But as far as the comment about not hurting your community by dropping
servers,I don't disagree cause most people probably wouldn't,but I for the
first time in nearly 5 years of running VALVe games or mods to those games
am seriously thinking about shutting my stuff down and moving on,the whole
ad thing as a server owner/operator disguists me.

As far as a player,the client side "update" to the game to enable them,
disguist me as well.It appearls to me as mal-ware/adware.I don't like
ad-ware/mal-ware on my computer to flash ads while I surf the interenet or
use my computer and I sure as hell don't want it in my games.What are you
people at VALVe thinking?I wasn't too wild about turning steam on and seeing
ad's for games coming out ect. but at least you gave us the option to turn
that off,but now you will be force feeding it?Granted you aren't making any
money off the game(s) you sold us 7 and 8 years ago anymore,but if you would
actually deliver what you promised of your new games,take source for example
you told us it would be a direct and exact port of cs 1.6 making the same
game with better graphics I would and did pay for that,what did you give us?
A decent game but nothing that was promised except the graphics.Source is
nothing like 1.6 some said it's a good thing others do not.Look at your own
player graphs and statistics for the months on player hours per game.That
should have opened your eyes but it did not.(At writing in favor of CS 1.6
104,282 to CS:S 26,426 thats nearly 4 times higher!!)

I guess all the people bitching about this ad "update" should open your eyes
too, but it won't either.I knew the day bf2142 came out most if not all the
companies,especially online only games would follow one of the crappiest
money making models I've ever seen in the gaming industry.You should have
stuck with making quality product,instead of worrying about soaking up every
dime from anyone you can.And you can't tell me you don't get kick back from
other developers that sale on your STEAM platform.Yeah CHA-CHING!!!Normally
quality product followed by active developments to fix anything that pops up
and supporting existing games follows along with loyal buyers that buy
everything you put out like sheep,instead you pick force feeding ad content.

I'm afraid this one person will never purchase from STEAM/VALVe again.

-BeNt-

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Yes, I would agree with brand concept here. Players are joining and
staying at our communities not because they don't have other servers
to play at but because of effort and money we put into our projects. I
don't think that messing up with every dedicated server on the network
does make any sense but whose which are really busy and thus deliver a
lot of ads to players should have some compensation.

I'm not going to hurt my community by dropping any of my servers as
long as I have players on them and I suppose most of us won't do that
and that is why I don't think we ever get any compensation...

As for more realistic approach I would rather prefer to pay 2-3 USD
per month to disable ads for myself.

This is all very sad though.



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