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is there a way to find out how many people actually own source. cos i just
LOL at the fact CS 1.6 has more servers 95% of the time then source has
players. i bought the silver package befor source came out. i do play source
ocasionally which is probs to play on a zombie mod server cos thats the only
fun mod there for me at the moment.

source isnt 1.6 as most people have said there 2 different games, different
style's etc. if valve want to make money why not bring out a 1.7 ? or call
it something else. stick with the same map layout as 1.6 maybe even roll
back. keep the wall banging keep the orignal flash bangs and smokes, nades
etc. im sure the majority of 1.6 players would buy it at full retail. you
keep giving us stupid survey popups about hardware etc. why not do something
useful with it and ASK your customers what they would like to see in a nxt
release. end of the day u can make all the change you guys want to anygame
what u think best but on the other hand its us who buy it :)

but as its looking at the moment source is just a higher quality version of
condition zero. and it does'nt seem to be improving.


On 08/03/07, [GS]Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I totally agree with the brand concept.I also agree that as a whole
> communities do good by having their admin players and projects doing good
> and pleasing the community.Ads do not please the communities that are
> around
> at all I guarentee you that.
>
> But as far as the comment about not hurting your community by dropping
> servers,I don't disagree cause most people probably wouldn't,but I for the
> first time in nearly 5 years of running VALVe games or mods to those games
> am seriously thinking about shutting my stuff down and moving on,the whole
> ad thing as a server owner/operator disguists me.
>
> As far as a player,the client side "update" to the game to enable them,
> disguist me as well.It appearls to me as mal-ware/adware.I don't like
> ad-ware/mal-ware on my computer to flash ads while I surf the interenet or
> use my computer and I sure as hell don't want it in my games.What are you
> people at VALVe thinking?I wasn't too wild about turning steam on and
> seeing
> ad's for games coming out ect. but at least you gave us the option to turn
> that off,but now you will be force feeding it?Granted you aren't making
> any
> money off the game(s) you sold us 7 and 8 years ago anymore,but if you
> would
> actually deliver what you promised of your new games,take source for
> example
> you told us it would be a direct and exact port of cs 1.6 making the same
> game with better graphics I would and did pay for that,what did you give
> us?
> A decent game but nothing that was promised except the graphics.Source is
> nothing like 1.6 some said it's a good thing others do not.Look at your
> own
> player graphs and statistics for the months on player hours per game.That
> should have opened your eyes but it did not.(At writing in favor of CS 1.6
> 104,282 to CS:S 26,426 thats nearly 4 times higher!!)
>
> I guess all the people bitching about this ad "update" should open your
> eyes
> too, but it won't either.I knew the day bf2142 came out most if not all
> the
> companies,especially online only games would follow one of the crappiest
> money making models I've ever seen in the gaming industry.You should have
> stuck with making quality product,instead of worrying about soaking up
> every
> dime from anyone you can.And you can't tell me you don't get kick back
> from
> other developers that sale on your STEAM platform.YeahCHA-CHING!!!Normally
> quality product followed by active developments to fix anything that pops
> up
> and supporting existing games follows along with loyal buyers that buy
> everything you put out like sheep,instead you pick force feeding ad
> content.
>
> I'm afraid this one person will never purchase from STEAM/VALVe again.
>
> -BeNt-
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > Yes, I would agree with brand concept here. Players are joining and
> > staying at our communities not because they don't have other servers
> > to play at but because of effort and money we put into our projects. I
> > don't think that messing up with every dedicated server on the network
> > does make any sense but whose which are really busy and thus deliver a
> > lot of ads to players should have some compensation.
> >
> > I'm not going to hurt my community by dropping any of my servers as
> > long as I have players on them and I suppose most of us won't do that
> > and that is why I don't think we ever get any compensation...
> >
> > As for more realistic approach I would rather prefer to pay 2-3 USD
> > per month to disable ads for myself.
> >
> > This is all very sad though.
>
>
>
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